I have been running field tests on male / female courtship interactions.

[javaguru]

Like women don't lie about who they are to make themselves more attractive to a man!
They are even more deceptive than men, not only do they use lies but also dramaticallly modify their appearance. They tan, get manicures, facials, wear make-up, wonder bras and even corset type clothing to make their waist look thinner. Face it people, both sexes use deception to get what they want.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Like women don't lie about who they are to make themselves more attractive to a man!
They are even more deceptive than men, not only do they use lies but also dramaticallly modify their appearance. They tan, get manicures, facials, wear make-up, wonder bras and even corset type clothing to make their waist look thinner. Face it people, both sexes use deception to get what they want.

Yes you are right, women do lie, maybe more than men do... But they can do that if they wish. Why? Cause they hold the power since they have the poohntang.
We can sit there and argue this point with every women we meet, and we might be right but it will never get us anywhere.
There is an old saying in sales "Do you want to be right? OR do you want to make the Sale?" I guess the way it would apply here is: "Do you want to tell a chick how wrong she is? OR do you want to get some pussy?"

 

[Spartacus]

what was that that one guy said about 25% of the men fuck 75% of the women?
women may have the pussy,but for some guys,they still control the field
and women know which men those are

 

[dirty~d~]

Interesting thread I must say. Keep it going.

 

[casualbb]

Here's something I found that's real odd. Chicks will hook up with a guy they barely like just to validate themselves.

Here's an example.

I met this girl during rush (I'm in a fraternity). I wouldn't say we hit it off because I didn't like her that much, but I was teasing the crap out of her and she was eating it up. Two days later, at a party, we hooked up, but she put on the brakes after barely anything.

We hooked up one more time after that, but still not much happened. However, I kept seeing her because she was friends with a guy in the house.

More often than not, when I'd see her, it would be at a party. I figured, since we hooked up once, she'd certainly be game for more (I've since learned that chicks don't work like that), so I tried coming on semi-strong. It totally bombed, she was having none of it.

It seemed like the more I made it clear that I wanted her the less she was attracted.

Then months elapsed without us seeing each other, and I saw her a little while ago at a party. This time, I tried an experiment: I would flirt with her, but play super-hard to get. I teased her, and then when she got offended, instead of buying into it and apologizing like I used to I just said "you take me way too seriously! I'm not sure I want to hang out with you anymore..." and she backed down.

After a half hour she basically dragged me outside to makeout. However, after 10 minutes outside, she pretty much stopped, went back inside, and semi-ignored me for the rest of the night.

Moral of the story? She just wanted to prove to herself that she could "get" me, she really wasn't interested. At most temporarily attacted because I disqualified her so much.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

You know I just came to a realization about Rap music.. as much as I hate it.. they are just singing what I basically wrote in my post when they debase those types of women.

Its just unfortunate that SO many owmen are like that.

And it's also sad how so many women, especially college chicks, eat that shit up.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I sense a bit of hatred in your post… I hope you were not refereeing to my posts, I don’t want to come off sounding like I hate women. I actually love women, I love them all.

I don’t think we should look down on women for letting us enchant them with the spoken word, we should embrace them for it. If women were only attracted to us based on looks, then we would have only 10% of the male population getting 90% of the poohntang out there(the majority of the single male population is ugly and poorly maintained).
The fact that you can smooth a girl into bed with your charm, even if you are not great looking, actually gives everybody some hope… Shit! You can’t get a face transplant but you can surely get an attitude overhaul. You can’t learn to be good looking, but you can learn to be impressionable when you talk to people.

Back in the day… I mean way back in the day… Gentlemen would write poetry for ladies they were courting, men would take pride in being honorable and chivalrous. Women were proud of their chastity. Men had to actually work to get some poohntang. We would risk life and limb Jousting wearing a lady’s “colors” as proof of our love. Sometimes, years of courtship and letter writing were necessary just to marry a chick and get her into bed. Once they became our wife, we would defend their honor with our swords(now we get mad when they ask us to take out the garbage).
Then women became liberated, and started to actually have sex with us before marriage, they decided who they wanted to sleep with, they no longer asked us to woo them for years, a few dates would do just fine. They required less work from us in order to get into their bed. Then we as men got lazy, it became less effort to get some poonhtang and we stopped shining our armor and stopped writing them poetry. Chivalry died, but women’s natural desire to be swept off their feet hasn’t died.
Women still want to be romanced and won over even if we are just faking it, they want to hear nice things tonight even if we may ride off into the sunset tomorrow… But we think it is too much of them to ask. We think that having to be “smooth” is too much work. We think they should sleep with us just because we are “nice”, even if we put very little effort into winning them over. Then we get mad at the dudes that actually put some work into homing their wooing skills. Hate the game not the player… Some of us guys need to get with it…


That is just my opinion….

I think what Milo Hobgoblin was saying was that now, a lot of guys could care less about the girl herself, and the only reason they are spitting the game is to get their dicks wet; which is fine, but certainly sleazy.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Yes you are right, women do lie, maybe more than men do... But they can do that if they wish. Why? Cause they hold the power since they have the poohntang.
We can sit there and argue this point with every women we meet, and we might be right but it will never get us anywhere.
There is an old saying in sales "Do you want to be right? OR do you want to make the Sale?" I guess the way it would apply here is: "Do you want to tell a chick how wrong she is? OR do you want to get some pussy?"

What if, hypothetically speaking, all the guys in an area, say a university or a decent sized town with plenty of 20-30 somethings, stopped trying to get pussy? Just reversed the role so to speak, having the women try to woo men for the dick. Would women then be forced to pursue or would it just not be biologically natural? I would think that they would eventually start getting frustrated and anxious to get some.

 

[chesty]

I have tried the honest, chivalrous, poetry writing stuff, didn't work, tried the hard to get stuff, didn't work, tried even being my self, didn't work. The only time a woman was ever interested in me is when I was off limits and of course then its a no go any way.

What we guys don't realize is that the women hold a hypnotic power over us. We have started wars over them, killed for them, embarrassed ourselves for them, etc. We become weak around them in that they know how to control us emotionally and physically. And it isn't just because of the box, it is more than that. They truly are mysterious in nature and we can't figure them out and that drives us nuts, yet we still want them more than ever.

I think it is the man that is trying to validate himself in the eyes of a woman. We need to know that we are the King of the jungle, even if it is only for a short while.

 

[TruBalla4Real]

The fact of the matter is that as a reasult of how women act (their egos etc.), men shape their approach to fool them. If that is what they want, then fine. I tend think that things would be much better if people just acted like themselves and didn't play games. However, I've come to realize that women can't do this because their "game" is a way of discriminating against men that they think are not worth their time. Only the good looking and smooth talking (or mind fucking/game playing) guys get the bulk of the women . Works out good for some, bad for others. Some guys get lucky occasionally. What it boils down to is 1) You have to be good looking and whoever says you don't is lying, 2) You have to be fun, so the woman doens't get bored with you obviously and 3) With a DECENT woman (the one that you woudl want to attract and date) you have to create rapport and convey a sense that you are a good person, but not too much of the latter (you want to be a mixture of bad boy and nice guy). my 2 cents