I have been running field tests on male / female courtship interactions.

[goldenthree]

I have found that generally sexism and hatred for women is correlated directly with how much of a "nice" guy you are. The shittier the guy(one that will cheat, treat a woman like shit, or try to steal friends gf's for a power trip) tend to love women much more then "nice" guys who I have found to despise women, and hate them. Problem is that whole push and pull, you treat a girl like shit(not too much) she has to be validated by you, and she thinks "he must be special" because I put up with his shit(cognitive dissonance, totally explains cops if you watch you know what I mean). A guy who treats a woman like a princess will get fucked over every time. She takes your affection for granted, will start to think that the reason I am with him is because of the way he treats me. Cheat on you, because they don't want to "hurt" you, and then evantually leave you.

Personal opinion from experiencing and watching both "assholes" and "nice guys" in relationships.

 

[mastrmage]

BRRock and goldenthree, BOOYAAAH! Bang, spot on the money lads.

-to the majority of the others in the thread-
If you guys are hanging out in the players scene, Play or be Played. Sure there's some nice girls and nice guys out there looking for the right girl/guy but the majority of people in clubs are just out to have some fun. (I know for a fact that when I'm with a chick and I really love her and have no intention of cheating etc, I dont go to clubs anywhere near as often as when I'm single.)

No offence but you frustrated guys sound like you lack self confidence. I'm not trying to blow my own horn here but I can go up to any chick in a club and chat to her, hold conversations, meet new people, get numbers.. I'm just socially apt I guess. It's a confidence thing, I'm not happy with my body (just started training 4 months ago), and get paranoid about blemishes and the like, so I'm not overflowing with confidence and test, but I exude the appearance that I am confident and know what I want. Girls like self esteem and confidence in a guy cause it rubs off on them and they feel good about themselves.

By all means be a gentlemen but dont fall over your own feet trying to serve her and buy her drinks, she'll just think you're boring.

In summary, dont be an insecure tryhard, be fun, be a man who has direction, self control and self assurance without appearing egotistical and full of yourself.

As BRR says, just my theories dont take this for gospel!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Has this thread tought you guys anything?


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[Forge]

Has this thread tought you guys anything?


.

Not really, it's only reinforced what I already knew, that I am not like most guys. I don't have "game", I don't lie to women just to bed them, I don't put on a facade in clubs at bars or at parties, that's just not the kind of guy I am.

I always just act like myself. I'll talk to them like I would to anyone, if they like me then it goes somewhere, if not then I walk away. If a girl shoots me down then so be it, her loss, but I won't be someone I'm not just to bed some stranger. To me that's just a waste of time.

Maybe that's why I've only been with girls that I formed serious relationships with, but that's the way I like it. I'm more into quality, not quantity. But I realize that most guys are not like this, and this thread appears to be for the players, not guys like me. Still, it amazes me the ends that some guys will go to simply to get a little pussy...

 

[LeeJunFan]

Here is where shit gets twisted thought: That same girl that would have a one night stand with a guy she finds ungodly attractive, will make YOU wait if she thinks you are relationship material. Yes she likes you and yes she want to be your girl, so she has to make a good impression and make you work for it so you appreciate it when you get it. She knows if she bangs you on the first date you won’t take her seriously.
This is just a theory, I could be wrong.

But how do you know that she is making you wait, she is not going to tell you she's making you wait, she might just be too nice a person to tell you to piss off so how do you know?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

But how do you know that she is making you wait, she is not going to tell you she's making you wait, she might just be too nice a person to tell you to piss off so how do you know?

Bro, there are signals... Lots of them.

You can be caught in the "Friend Zone/ladder" and just be her buddy (one of the girls) or actually be on the "Fucking Ladder" and working you way up.... She will not let you know, you just have to take the hints.

 

[Growth&Courage]

Bro, there are signals... Lots of them.

You can be caught in the "Friend Zone/ladder" and just be her buddy (one of the girls) or actually be on the "Fucking Ladder" and working you way up.... She will not let you know, you just have to take the hints.

Quite ironic coming from someone that had trouble dumping a fuck buddy when you were making all the courtship rituals to her ie: cooking for her, being nice , (impressing her with the Thai boxing) etc.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Quite ironic coming from someone that had trouble dumping a fuck buddy when you were making all the courtship rituals to her ie: cooking for her, being nice , (impressing her with the Thai boxing) etc.

I only buddy up and cook for them after we have sex. It is a good retention tool, a fuck buddy doesn't last too long, the stuff I do helps keeps them around a little longer.

BTW- I don't study Muay Thai to impress chicks or anybody. I like the sport and love the art for what it has helped me become.

 

[Growth&Courage]

I only buddy up and cook for them after we have sex. It is a good retention tool, a fuck buddy doesn't last too long, the stuff I do helps keeps them around a little longer.

BTW- I don't study Muay Thai to impress chicks or anybody. I like the sport and love the art for what it has helped me become.

Of course I 100% understand this. I was only kidding to you.
I respect you + I respect Muay Thai too.

 

[ahimosa]

there's answer in this link ===> www.s_test_field.gim.ca