How far can I go naturally ?

[Yeo]

Thanks for the advice vgroover, that seems like alot of sets per bodypart though. I don't doubt that it has worked for you, do those sets include warmup sets or are they all work sets ?

 

[Deepsquat]

I used to train similar to D.Cs routine which infact is pretty similar to the methods promoted in the Body for Life book. But wasn't sure if I was overtraining so I cut my training to twice a week. My question is how do you know when you are fully recovered from your last session ?

One of the best , yet simplest test is ...are you stronger then the last time you trained that same bodypart,,,have you gone up in reps or weight or both? ...if not it could be a sign ...I have been doing DC training for 5 weeks and have improved every workout!

 

[Yeo]

How many warmup sets are you doing before your 1 work set Deepsquat and are you training three times a week ? What about you gman ? It's just that I find that I am not fully recovered from my last workout when I train three times a week.

 

[vinylgroover]

It includes warm up sets.

My last one or two exercises where i do two sets for some exercises i don't bother with warm-ups, just launch straight into it.

It's basically 10 stes for larger bodyparts and 6 or 7 for smaller. I haven't found that too much and when you're taking a full day rest between workouts, recovery is ok.

 

[Yeo]

Oh well each to his own vgroover, think I'll stick to 1-2worksets per bodypart and see how it goes, my weights have been going up on most of my excercises. When I plateau, I'll change my core excercises. I like the sound of 5*5 training too, I might give that a go when I am no longer gaining on my low volume training.

 

[Exodus]

YEO,

i will be honest....... my advice is not crap as the wonderful Debaser said. eat a ton, eat clean or eat whatever, just eat. eat enough to put some fat on. its no big deal. really. keep your sets per bodypart under10 sets. lift compound, lift heavy, and lift intense.

im sorry if this sounds bad but it sounds like your afraid of hard work, of putting in effort. you scared to overtrain, but its simple, pro's and even the people on this board have overtrained at one point. then they figured it out and backed off. i dont think your overtrained in the least bit. just quite looking for the magic formula that will make you big. have fun, train intensly, and dedicate yourself to the hard work. cause that's what it is, HARD and WORK. if you dont want to work hard, then go home.

sorry if that sounded mean. its just not as complicated as your making it.

X

 

[epimetheus]

Why work hard when you don't have to? If low work volume is producing results and he is happy with it, how is that afraid to work hard? Do you refuse to drive, because not running there is too afraid to work? 10 miles too far for you to run to work? You pussy.

Or, perhaps he trains in something else. Martial arts, football, wrestling, etc. Perhaps he trains light so the soreness does not ruin his life. Some people have lifes outside bodybuilding ya know. Sometimes it is nice to get stronger but not be so sore you can't bend down and pick up your car keys that fell out of your numb fingers.
Perhaps you should think of these things before you bash a person for not working out like you do. Instead of opening your mouth and looking like a tool and calling somebody a pussy for not doing more work than necessary.

If it works don't bash it.

 

[Yeo]

Thanks for sticking up for me epimetheus but I don't think exodus meant any disrespect if he did then he's a wanker. Exodus, believe me my friend, I am not afraid of hard work. Thanks for your opinion but I have tried the eight sets per bodypart way and got no results with it. If I thought I would put on more size training that way I would have carried on that way. The way I see it is that too many people read bb magazines and see the routines that the top bbs use and think if that's working for them then it will work for me too. What they forget is that these top bbs are using massive amounts of gear and are genetic freaks so they can get away with training at that level of intensity. Ectomorphs like me cannot, I appreciate your input and you are entitled to your opinion but you don't know me bro so don't make the assumption that I'm affraid of hard work.

Peace to all

 

[Exodus]

what the hell is a "wanker"?........ just kidding.. yeo i didnt mean any dissrespect, just calling things like i see them. i think that that this whole world, (myself included) likes to have things handed to them for free instead of working hard, thats all.

and to epimethis. first off grow up. there is a difference between hard work and logic. its not a matter of hard work to walk to work or to drive, its a matter of logic. nothing wrong with yeo looking for help but his post made it sound like he wanted someone to tell him the magical rep/set/number exercise combination. and fact is it doesnt exist. what works for me doesnt neccesarily work for you, get it? and my work ethic is the way it should be. nobody in the history of this planet ever said, man, if wouldnt have worked so hard my life would have been all roses and daisies........im sorry you cant bend down and pick up your keys. it breaks my heart, really. how could you, or anyone else be that sad. i have a full time job, i go to school, i am a newlywed, and i go and sped the whole weekend out playing. yet with my "hard work" that your so afraid of i manage to be able to pick up the dang keys.

and last, if his workouts were pending around some sport he played, dont you think he would have mentioned it, retard.

X

 

[epimetheus]

Well, I was a bit harsh I suppose. To address a few of your "points" though- My point was that you don't know what he was capable of, that perhaps 1-2 working sets was all his body needed to grow, anything more could hinder him or was not necessary.

I don't think you know what logic is either. Difference between hard work and logic? Uhh, ok. I didn't say they were the same thing. Perhaps you mean that running 10 miles to work is a piss poor analogy to use to working out at the gym. Inductive or deductive logic is a far cry from expositional skills I suppose.

If you cared to think about posts before spewing forth your cunning (retard, childish, etc) insults, you would notice that nowhere did I mention *I* couldn't bend down to pick up my keys. Perhaps you need to get a dictionary and look up hyperbole.

I am not afraid of work, I never said I followed a low volume routine. However, what works for me, might not work for him- and since it didn't seem to dawn upon your brilliance, since we all know genius' are absentminded, I just thought I would bring it to your attention.

BTW, I, names, and the first letter of the first word in paragraphs are supposed to be capitalized. I am sure you know that because you are in school though. Congradulations on your marriage.