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How far can I go naturally ?
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jeremys
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RusPA81 said:
yeah
maybe i could be well over what it says for me...i started lifting right when i started puberty as a wee little fat guy, maybe that whole puberty thing influenced things quite a bit. i'm guessing that's why i am what i am now (nothing great, but still..)
In that case, right on!
You could have a big structure in a way that wasn't accounted for by wrists or ankles, or have naturally high T levels. Also, if you have juiced at one point it can elevate you above your genetic potential for some time.
I figure it provides a realistic goal to shoot for. Most people aren't anywhere near where it has them. I think its value is to put things in perspective in this world of juiced BB's. Everybody seems to think anything less than mid 200's is small.
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You could have a big structure in a way that wasn't accounted for by wrists or ankles, or have naturally high T levels. Also, if you have juiced at one point it can elevate you above your genetic potential for some time.
I figure it provides a realistic goal to shoot for. Most people aren't anywhere near where it has them. I think its value is to put things in perspective in this world of juiced BB's. Everybody seems to think anything less than mid 200's is small.
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Jxaxsxe530
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hey bro, i have used anything from high volume twice a day 5 days a week split routine to 2 times a week HIT training style to anything in between. the first few years were pretty much trial and errors... for me personally i believe the best way for a hard gainer to pack on mass would be to do HEAVY low rep compound exercises, LOW volume (2 heavy sets maximum), and do them more frequently. I dont think a beginner with not much development yet, can overtrain using low volume high frequency method. Good example is my chest. Last 2, 3 weeks my chest has grown like mad after i took DC's suggestion of doing one all-out set and doing them every 4 days. My bench shot from 225 to 265 in a couple weeks. DC recommends slow negatives, but from my endless reading on slow negatives, i have decided not to do them eventhough i do keep a smooth medium pace. Keep in mind: keep it simple, heavy weight, low reps, low volume, more frequently, and ProLab NLarge II 
. Also, i have tried in the past, but i dont believe in any of those fancy drop set, giant set, superset, etc principles. I dont think they help a hard gainer, but thats just my opinion.
. Also, i have tried in the past, but i dont believe in any of those fancy drop set, giant set, superset, etc principles. I dont think they help a hard gainer, but thats just my opinion.
Aussie Juga naught
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Look man, its really quite simple..its been posted to death, but maybe its just not getting through to everyone;
1. Eat shit loads of food, this means eat anything and everything in sight..some days I eat a big meal every 2 hours. Dont say to yourself ok, i will chuck in a extra shake or I will try and eat a little more, thats bullshit! EAT TILL YOUR GUT IS BLOATED AND IF YOU EAT ANYMORE YOU WILL CHUCK YOUR GUTS UP, than when you have digested the last meal EAT AGAIN!
2. HEAVY low rep compound exercises at least 3x a week.
I dont know how long you have been training but at a certain point you will have a mind muscle connection....Once you have this you will know how hard to push yourself and what your body responds best too. If you walk into that gym and give it 100% you will walk out feeling 110%
1. Eat shit loads of food, this means eat anything and everything in sight..some days I eat a big meal every 2 hours. Dont say to yourself ok, i will chuck in a extra shake or I will try and eat a little more, thats bullshit! EAT TILL YOUR GUT IS BLOATED AND IF YOU EAT ANYMORE YOU WILL CHUCK YOUR GUTS UP, than when you have digested the last meal EAT AGAIN!
2. HEAVY low rep compound exercises at least 3x a week.
I dont know how long you have been training but at a certain point you will have a mind muscle connection....Once you have this you will know how hard to push yourself and what your body responds best too. If you walk into that gym and give it 100% you will walk out feeling 110%
DanielBishop
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Did you ever wonder why you don't have a green karma dot anymore, Aussie? Maybe because you give crap advice....
.... the "eat everything and anything until you're bloated and about to puke" thing is wrong. It's simply wrong. You don't need to stuff yourself to the point of physical pain and bloating.... that's ridiculous. Yes, you need to eat a lot.... you need high protein and high calories, and you need carbs and fats from the right sources. But after a certain point, the "eat everything" diet does nothing but add to fat gain.... and can even hinder your hypertrophy progress.
That's why it's not getting through to people.... because it's not the best way.
.... the "eat everything and anything until you're bloated and about to puke" thing is wrong. It's simply wrong. You don't need to stuff yourself to the point of physical pain and bloating.... that's ridiculous. Yes, you need to eat a lot.... you need high protein and high calories, and you need carbs and fats from the right sources. But after a certain point, the "eat everything" diet does nothing but add to fat gain.... and can even hinder your hypertrophy progress.
That's why it's not getting through to people.... because it's not the best way.
I used to train similar to D.Cs routine which infact is pretty similar to the methods promoted in the Body for Life book. But wasn't sure if I was overtraining so I cut my training to twice a week. My question is how do you know when you are fully recovered from your last session ?
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