Help! Running my first Cycle.....

[princesa]

Alright, I've been thinking about crossing over to the dark side lol..
I'm planning to take Anavar plus ECA.
A few questions...
Has anyone had any experience or knowledge with both?
Is it safe to do both at the same time?
For a first time user...should I go with 5mg or 10mg?

I know some people stack it with clen, but I don't want to mess around with my thyroid.

Btw, I will take some measurements later.


Let me know if you need any more info...

thank you

 

[miplank]

LOL...when I first read the title I thought you were going to run a Real cycle!...LOL

 

[princesa]

LOL...when I first read the title I thought you were going to run a Real cycle!...LOL

it is...

 

[miplank]

didn't see the anavar...crap!

 

[ironwings]

Welcome to the dark side ;-) It would help to know where you are in your training and diet and what your goals are. I don't recommend aas to anyone but here is my experience:

My aas of choice is Anavar. I have never been a drug or supplement kind of girl but started Anavar to gain muscle mass that I just wasn't gaining on my own (with effective workouts and diet).

My first cycle was 5mg for week one and then 10mg week two - eleven. I gained 10lb of muscle without adding much size (the goal for me). I used this cycle as strength building. (I also ran Winstrol with this cycle for three weeks - my joints hurt so bad I had to go off on the Win)

Second cycle was 10mg for week one - two and 15mg week three - fourteen. This cycle was way too much and for way too long. The long cycle and higher dose made my hormones go crazy. I thought I was premenopausal! (I'm only 33) I actually saw very little results from this because my diet wasn't right on and I hadn't cut enough in between cycles.

Third cycle was most successful. 10mg a day for 6 weeks. Perfect timing and dosage. Intensity flared at the gym, rep ranges and weight increased and I felt stronger than ever. My diet was more in check and I had added lots of tabata work and interval training. You can see before and after photos in my journal.

My sides included: mood swings, reduction and in some cases stopped having a monthly cycle while using, and mild acne. All hormone induced.

I have never taken ECA or any "weight loss" drug other than my most recent start of LipoStim and LipoFlame (milder than ECA). Ephedrine and that much caffeine scare me personally. Anywho, the two should be fine together - just watch your appetite. Both may supress it and you need to make sure you are giving your body the nutrition it needs. No starving yourself. Just know that as on any weight loss drug there is an aftermath to pay. When you go off, weight comes back on. Even if just a little. There is always rebound. I also know that the body gets used to ephedrine after a week or two and it becomes inaffective unless you cycle it. Lastly, as with any weight loss drug, know that the real weight loss comes from your increased intensity in the gym. You may get this if you chose to go with Anavar alone. As with any weight loss drug you shouldn't take them if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure. I'm sure you have done your research and know the risks (particularly the impact on your heart from ephedrine and the addicitve nature of the caffeine). If you chose to do this I would recommend going on slowly and coming off slowly.

Of course you know this but nutrition and your workout structure are key. AAS alone will not produce the results. You have to. If you are going to put your body through this then make sure you go all out and get everything down pat. Matter of fact, if your diet and workouts aren't on key now, don't even think about starting a cycle ;-)

I know others will chime in and share their knowledge - I am new to ass so I can only share my personal experience with it.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Alright, I've been thinking about crossing over to the dark side lol..
I'm planning to take Anavar plus ECA.
A few questions...
Has anyone had any experience or knowledge with both?
I have taken many diffrent fatburns with var my personal favs are Venom and clen
Is it safe to do both at the same time?
Yes with any fatburn please make sure your water in take is high at least a gallon prevent dehdration and cramping
For a first time user...should I go with 5mg or 10mg?
First time user 5 mg is best IMO providing there are no sides your second cycle you can bump it up to 10 mg
I know some people stack it with clen, but I don't want to mess around with my thyroid.
T3 would mess with the thyroid clen effect your beta recptors much the same as ECA
Btw, I will take some measurements later.


Let me know if you need any more info...

thank you

What are you trying to accomplish gain LBM lose fat? Current diet and training?

 

[OneBreath]

Get ready for some fun.

Unless you've done ECA before and liked it i would just start with some lipoflame or lipostim.

Until you have your diet pristine there is no need to put any undo stress on your body. I've tried clen and t3 and got nowhere because my diet sucked. Now my diet is much more in check and i just use lipostim.

 

[Bikini Mod]

LOL...when I first read the title I thought you were going to run a Real cycle!...LOL

This isn't chat.

Remember that please.

First and last warning.

 

[Bikini Mod]

What are you trying to accomplish gain LBM lose fat? Current diet and training?

What QT said.

Over the counter ECA stack shouldn't hurt you unless you abuse them or you have pre-existing medical condition.

IMO also clen is garbage and doesn't yield any more benefit than OTC ECA.

I wouldn't mess with T3 either. I mean, what is the point? You can drop a good amount of bf and maintain LBM with better diet and better training.

From what I understand Anavar is *the safest* anabolic agent for women in that sides are very low and gains can be very high in proportion. I've heard of women experiencing significant gains on cycles as low as 5MG EOD, maintaining awesome strength and hardness using OTC ECA with stringent dieting and hard training.

But back to QT's original question: why the interest in the cross-over? Is it that you would like to compete someday?

 

[Bikini Mod]

Welcome to the dark side ;-) It would help to know where you are in your training and diet and what your goals are. I don't recommend aas to anyone but here is my experience:

My aas of choice is Anavar. I have never been a drug or supplement kind of girl but started Anavar to gain muscle mass that I just wasn't gaining on my own (with effective workouts and diet).

My first cycle was 5mg for week one and then 10mg week two - eleven. I gained 10lb of muscle without adding much size (the goal for me). I used this cycle as strength building. (I also ran Winstrol with this cycle for three weeks - my joints hurt so bad I had to go off on the Win)

Second cycle was 10mg for week one - two and 15mg week three - fourteen. This cycle was way too much and for way too long. The long cycle and higher dose made my hormones go crazy. I thought I was premenopausal! (I'm only 33) I actually saw very little results from this because my diet wasn't right on and I hadn't cut enough in between cycles.

Third cycle was most successful. 10mg a day for 6 weeks. Perfect timing and dosage. Intensity flared at the gym, rep ranges and weight increased and I felt stronger than ever. My diet was more in check and I had added lots of tabata work and interval training. You can see before and after photos in my journal.

My sides included: mood swings, reduction and in some cases stopped having a monthly cycle while using, and mild acne. All hormone induced.

I have never taken ECA or any "weight loss" drug other than my most recent start of LipoStim and LipoFlame (milder than ECA). Ephedrine and that much caffeine scare me personally. Anywho, the two should be fine together - just watch your appetite. Both may supress it and you need to make sure you are giving your body the nutrition it needs. No starving yourself. Just know that as on any weight loss drug there is an aftermath to pay. When you go off, weight comes back on. Even if just a little. There is always rebound. I also know that the body gets used to ephedrine after a week or two and it becomes inaffective unless you cycle it. Lastly, as with any weight loss drug, know that the real weight loss comes from your increased intensity in the gym. You may get this if you chose to go with Anavar alone. As with any weight loss drug you shouldn't take them if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure. I'm sure you have done your research and know the risks (particularly the impact on your heart from ephedrine and the addicitve nature of the caffeine). If you chose to do this I would recommend going on slowly and coming off slowly.

Of course you know this but nutrition and your workout structure are key. AAS alone will not produce the results. You have to. If you are going to put your body through this then make sure you go all out and get everything down pat. Matter of fact, if your diet and workouts aren't on key now, don't even think about starting a cycle ;-)

I know others will chime in and share their knowledge - I am new to ass so I can only share my personal experience with it.

Excellent post - please pay carefull attention to the bolded part as she isn't exaggerating.