Got Attacked Last Night

[wardog]

The problem is not your TKD training at all..it is called adreniline stress response. Under adreniline, several things happen to EVERYBODY:

#1 shortened range of motion. So those power punches you were throwing, probably did not hit with anything close to full impact. In my school, this is why we train with exxagerated motions..to counter this effect of adreniline.

#2 Tunnel Vision. Unless you learn to scan, you will be hit a lot more, and will no have seen if her BF was walking up to your side to slam you down. Again, not your fault, blame adreniline.

#3 Selective hearing. This is why people get shot and swear they never heard the gunshot.

#4 The body takes blood from the extremities and brings it to the center mass of your body. This is good in the event you get cut, bad side is you tire very quickly. This is why you see bar fights where 2 guys punch each other for 30 seconds, then are sitting there panting for breath.

#5 Eye/hand coordination goes to hell. All those fancy pressure points and specific target punches are pretty useless. Use broad striking weapons such as your elbows or knees..it makes it harder to miss.

Your art isnt the issue..adreniline stress response is. My school teaches it as part of their self defence courses, utilizing "howlers" to get you upset and nervous, and adrenilized. Then you learn what attacks are useful and which are not under true adreniline situations. You use full power attacks against people in full "redman" body armor..so you can go to town. I have seen black belts in jujitsu, Krav Magna experts, JKD etc etc fall apart completely under adreniline stress, and actually question their years of training. Once you learn how your body reacts to adreniline, then you fine tune your art for adreniline stress resonse, and next time, the bit*h will go down.

Just check around for a school that teaches adreniline stress response..it is usually an 8 week course..and will be the best 8 weeks you ever spent

 

[Doktor Bollix]

The problem is not your TKD training at all..it is called adrenalin stress response.

Great post man.

 

[bighead]

I forgot that your in the uk,if it's also reality based training your looking for,look up a guy called Geoff Thompson or someone who is connected to him.The only thing is that you may not like what he does.You'll find out plenty about him any of the british martial art magazines.I think his organisation is called the british combat association but I'm not sure.He is most definitely worth investigating,he does a lot of writing these days but still trains himself.


This is his website:
http://www.geoffthompson.com/

Despite the impression you might get of him,he is a very nice guy and very genuine.

 

[Sexual Mustard]

ouch

 

[wardog]

Ouch perhaps, but what he teaches is similar to ASR. Howlers SUCK! I am a big boy, and trained in the MA for 12+ years. I was SURE those "Howlers" werent going to get me nervous. LMAO..they had me shaking and adrenilized in no time flat. The personal interview before the classes has a lot to do with it. They ask a lot of very probing questions, and you should really answer honestly if you want to get the most of the course. They then use this against you to get you almost "reliving" these experiences..it is actually really hard on you, but it does get you to where you need to be. I have seen women who were vitctims of rape, having it almost reinacted against them, completely falling apart, curling into a fetal ball on the floor..completely submitting, and becoming a victim once again in the first class. By the last class, they are reacting agressivly, and actually will probably now have the tools to prevent themselves from becoming a victim again..which was something they didnt have before. Watching your other classmates go thru something like that, is hard as hell, yet seeing the changes in 8 weeks, is unbelievable. You almost want to cheer when you see the same woman who in class one curled into a fetal ball, now having to be pulled off the "redman" by 3 people because she completely snapped on the guy. You can see, if it was real life, that attacker would be pushing up daisies...which is where rapists belong IMO.

 

[Doktor Bollix]

"Join a biker gang."

Very practical advice, everyone should do this. You tool.

"Here in la --- everyone is very smart."

LOL!

"European countries are more violent in nature where police presence is minimal at best."

Total bullshit.

 

[Juice Moose]

I would have kicked that fat bitch in the nuts!!!!!

 

[Longhorn85]

Thank you everyone for your supportive messages and advice.

There is too much in my life I value not to heed the warning of last night and a) keep my mouth shut b) modify my training to try and make the playnig field less uphill against me...

You thanked others for advice, but you have given yourself the best advice. I think answer a is even better than b. Yes, you should be well trained in case of emergency, but it is more important to avoid confrontations like that with idiots who have nothing to lose. Like you said, too much value in your life.

I also might add you should watch your temper, it can get you into trouble. For example, you ask for advice on this board and when SM suggests it might be your garb, you freak out.

Take it in stride, lady!

 

[ZenMachine]

Often the way you train can just be just as much of a problem as the style of training that you have. I studied TKD for years and we practiced with contact, but never the type of contact that was designed to inflict significant damage or take someone out of a fight. We only looked to score points. I changed my training to incorportate real life situations. Practiced without all of the TKD rules, incorporated throws, ground fighting, etc. and now I feel better able to handle myself in a real fighting situation.

I used to help out with the 4 hour "Women's self defense" classes that are offered at the local community college. (huge waste of time IMHO). I always encouraged the attendees to hit me with force when they were practicing techniques. Obviously they couldn't with every attack scenario, but if they were elbowing the solar plexius. They needed (IMO) to feel what it was like to strike, with the intent to due damage.

Zen

 

[casavant]

fighting is stupid

Only is some situations. It's very necessary in others.