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Themachine01

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Does anyone else drink a gatorade while training, getting some simple carbs running through you while lifting? I just started about 2 weeks ago and really feel that it is helping me get through training sessions. I'll start off drinking water then switch to a small gatorade which I finish before ending my workout.
 
Yes, although I don't do it, I believe it is good. Just last week on TV they had a doctor (forgot his name) and Mackie Shilstone and they were saying the best replenishing/hydration drink is 3 parts water to 1 part Gatorade. Mackie was looking jacked too. I think his weight is up to about 123. He's a smart f*cker though.
 
ulter said:
Thank God. I have been preaching this for a year and it's fallen on deaf ears (or maybe I should say blind eyes) on most boards. Take the Glucorell R and then use Gatorade to train. Makes a huge difference in your performance.
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Gatorade is the best at restoring electrolytes of all the sports drinks. I used it while on diuretics and it was the fastest.
 
I do 15-20 minutes hard on the treadmill before lifting, Ill chug the gatorade down right after the treadmill.
 
Themachine01 said:
Ulter. how much do you usually drink while training?
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16 oz is what's in my bottle and I usually finish it on the longer days.

I have to admit I was always a little biased because I have friends who work in the lab for Gatorade in Chicago and I know how much money and time they put into making the best possible product. They have changed hands a few times over the years from company (Quaker Oats) to company (Coca-cola) and the only thing the corporate types have never messed with is the lab.
 
ulter said:
Thank God. I have been preaching this for a year and it's fallen on deaf ears (or maybe I should say blind eyes) on most boards. Take the Glucorell R and then use Gatorade to train. Makes a huge difference in your performance.
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Ulter~ Does it matter what flavour you use because some have added oil in the preperation, I guess to slow down absorbtion and preseve steady blood sugar levels. The fruit punch has sunflower oil and one has cottonseed oil(without the added test )
:bawling: LOL.
There are some that have no oil, that would allow rapid glucose utilization. Do you recomend these flavours(versions) or is the added oil negligible when using R-ALA?
I wanted to buy a can of mix, for economical reasons-makes 8 litres, however they all contain hydrogenated oil, is this okay?

B32
 
blew, just because I get bored with the same on after a month a switch from blue to lemon-lime to orange and back. It really hasn't made any difference in terms of unwanted fat accumulation. But I am using Glucorell R just before I start, like I said.

TM01 No I don't use a PW shake anymore. I just take one preworkout shake with Glucorell R and then drink the Gatorade throughout the workout. I do eat a PW meal though.
 
I generally drink 64 ounces of gatorade while lifting. I do it mainly just to keep my calories high. - cbeaks
 
ulter said:
A gallon? Yeah that would tend to raise your calories. That's 400 right there.
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yup, 1/2 gallon. When I am bulking I drink 64 ounces of powerade. That is 500 calories. - cbeaks
 
I tried the same thing (r-ala + Lucozade Sport) and I got really pumped and had a higher performance workout.
 
i like the idea, but if i drink anything but water while working out it comes right back up(it not pretty, and then i really feel like shit)
any other suggestions?
 
Ive heard Pedialyte is basically just as good as gatorade at rehydrating, etc. , but minus all the sugar. True?
 
Enigmaxxx7 said:
Yes, although I don't do it, I believe it is good. Just last week on TV they had a doctor (forgot his name) and Mackie Shilstone and they were saying the best replenishing/hydration drink is 3 parts water to 1 part Gatorade. Mackie was looking jacked too. I think his weight is up to about 123. He's a smart f*cker though.
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Mackie Shilstone? Any links to any of his stuff? He's Roy Jones conditioning coach, so as a boxer, Id love to hear anything/everything this guy has to say. Thanks
 
i've been drinking gatorade for my workouts the last month. not sure it's contributed greatly, but i like it better than pop and tastes better than water
 
KOArtist said:


Mackie Shilstone? Any links to any of his stuff? He's Roy Jones conditioning coach, so as a boxer, Id love to hear anything/everything this guy has to say. Thanks
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Yeah, he's a very big reason Roy Jones was even able to enter the fight. Here is a link to his website and if you click on Programs I think they may some interesting stuff there.

Mackie
 
GodOfThunder said:
I stay away because it has high fructose corn syrup.
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Its sugar and salt water with flavoring...Powerade is somewhat better since it contains maltodextran with simple sugars.

I really avoid all simple sugars except dextrose for pre and post work out shakes...which studies have proven the best combo is simple protein and simple carb combos before and after a workout.

Next time you watch an NFL game notice they are drinking water out of gatorade cups and the coolers.
Good at rehydration is not good at immediate sports enhancement performance. When they rehydrate during a game they take an IV.

Gatorade sponsoring the NFL is almost as silly as Coors Light being an official sponsor or Levitra-the new viagra.:p :p

Now flame away peeps
 
I've seen studies saying it only does anything with longer workouts... 1 hour +... and even then it wasn't shown to do anything really in terms of strength.
 
I read the label of every kind & flavor of Gatorade in the grocery store and I did not see the word "electrolyte". This means to me that there are no electrolytes in this product. This is a simple carbo-drink. I guess a function of carb drinks is to create electrolytes in the body. There is nothing special about Gatorade. Other carb products can do the same thing.
 
MusslCub, The word electrolyte is not on the label. But the words sodium citrate, monopotassium Phosphate, and chloride are on the label. Those ARE eletrolytes.

"Powerade is somewhat better since it contains maltodextran with simple sugars."
--jasonstrong


"Research shows that more than a 6% carbohydrate solution is not better - A higher concentration of carbs takes longer to absorb and won't further improve performance."

Shi,X et al Med Sci Sports Exerc, 27:1607-1615, 1995
 
MusslCub said:
I read the label of every kind & flavor of Gatorade in the grocery store and I did not see the word "electrolyte". This means to me that there are no electrolytes in this product. This is a simple carbo-drink. I guess a function of carb drinks is to create electrolytes in the body. There is nothing special about Gatorade. Other carb products can do the same thing.
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All I know is that when I was taking lasix and pissing away every electrolyte in my body, nothin brought me back faster than gatorade. I tried powerade, ultra fuel, hydra fuel, and a few others. Gatorade worked best for me then.
 
anybody on the pedialyte?? Ive heard a lot of suggestions for this stuff throughout the years in my boxing training.
 
Ulter do you just stock up on gatorade (premade) drinks or buy the gatorade powder and add it to your water bottle?
 
Ulter- thx for that clarification. That product is marketed as an electrolyte replenishment drink. Their web-site uses the word "electrolyte" in a unassuming manor. I don't understand why it is not across the front of the bottle in big letters. What's the issue or FDA regulation they are not meeting? Something is preventing the word "electrolyte" from appearing boldly. I just don't get it.
 
I've tried gatorade during my workout with r-ala, but I prefer water. Water doesn't leave any taste or slimy saliva sensation in my mouth. It's just cold and light, and keeps my hydrated. Drinking gatorade and doing squats or deads makes me come real close to vomiting.
 
I cannot recommend gatorade enough. TRhis past few months i have cut out my 3 a day cokes/pepsis and replaced them w/ a copule of gatorades and my abs have gotten pretty cut up, not to mention all the weight i lost in my face. its a good treat if you want something sweet w/o as many useless calories.
 
I started the gatorade about a month ago.. I buy the powedered stuff.. I might get a placebo effect but I just do it to force hydration on my ass... I do once in a while have the puke close calls.. I wonder if it could be because I'm drinking while training... maybe the sugar increases stomach acidity or something?? I'm no physiologist, so I'm just guessing here...
 
KOArtist said:
somebody knowledgable confirm or dispell my boxing myth of this pedialyte business!?
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Don't know if this helps but here's my .02. When my daughter was about 3 months old she caught a rotovirus that had her vometing and shitting every 5-10 minutes. It was real bad. We stocked up on Pedailite to keep her from dehidrating. Luckly, she really liked it so the mass quantities of this stuff she consumed kept her out of the hospital. Anyway, after it was cleared up we had about 6 bottles left over. I used to drink it to rehidrate (since I witnessed it work on my daughter) and can attest that its good stuff. I wouldn't use it on a regular bases though as it's pricey.
 
RE: vomiting
I usually use my gade at half strength, it seems to stay down a LOT better and with less of a feeling in my mouth afterwards.
 
I started using gatorade during workouts right after my last cycle. I wish I would have started long before. It makes a significant difference for me in strength, endurance, and intensity. I also do this with 100mg r-ala (Glucorell brand) pre-workout. Pumps and vascularity are awesome.

I keep a variety of flavors in powder form, and use them to add simple carbs to my post workout shakes as well. All-the-Whey vanilla with lemon-lime or orange taste awesome together.

I give props to Ulter. I finally started it after listening to him preach it.

As a matter of fact, karma coming.
 
Come on guys, get real. Gatorade is garbage. Of course it gives you energy. IT'S SUGAR!

Years ago athletes would eat a candy bar for energy and today we laugh at that. So what's the difference?

Sure, it's a great way to add calories and orange gatorade on a hot summer day hits the spot like nothing else. But having too high a level of a simple sugar present in the bloodstream inhibits GH secretion -- not what you want during a workout.
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11905937&dopt=Abstract

Influence of weight training exercise and modification of hormonal response on skeletal muscle growth.

Tarpenning K M, Wiswell R A, Hawkins S A, Marcell T J.

Department of Exercise Sciences, Uniersity of Southern California, Los Angeles, USA.

To investigate the influence of carbohydrate (CHO) consumption on the acute hormonal response, and chronic adaptation to weight lifting exercise, two studies were conducted. Following a four-hour fast, seven young men (21.3 +/- 3.5 y) performed (on two occasions) a nine-station weight lifting protocol, completing 3 sets of 10 repetitions at 75% of 1RM (series 1). Randomly assigned, one session included the ingestion of a non-caloric placebo, and the other, a 6% CHO solution. For series 2, two groups of young men (21.3 +/- 1.5 y) participated in 12 weeks of progressive resistance weight training. Training for one group included the ingestion of a non-caloric placebo, and the other, a 6% CHO solution. In series 1, weight lifting exercise with CHO ingestion significantly (p < 0.05) elevated blood glucose and plasma insulin levels above baseline, as well as that occurring with the placebo. This resulted in a significant blunting of the cortisol response (7% with CHO compared to 99% with placebo). These findings indicate that CHO consumption during weight lifting exercise can modify the acute hormonal response to exercise. With series 2, CHO consumption continued to blunt the cortisol response to exercise during the twelve weeks of training. This is in contrast to significantly elevated cortisol levels observed for the placebo control group. Corresponding with the modified response patterns were differences in muscle growth. Weight training exercise with CHO ingestion resulted in significantly greater gains in both type I (19.1%) and type II (22.5%) muscle fibre area than weight training exercise alone. The difference in the cortisol response accounted for 74% of the variance (r = 0.8579, p = 0.006) of change in type I muscle fibre area, and 52.3% of the variance (r = 0.7231, p = 0.043) of change in type II muscle fibre area. These findings suggest that the modification of the cortisol response associated with CHO ingestion can positively impact the skeletal muscle hypertrophic adaptation to weigh training.

Ulter and I have been doing this for years now....
 
For those who don't know who Mr Nobody is, he's a 6'5" 310lb powerlifter/bodybuilder who has been training in Europe and the US for almost 20 years. His lifts would dwarf just about anyone here and he and I have both found that training is greatly enhanced by Gatorade, and Glucorell R.
And now you know the science of why.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Come on guys, get real. Gatorade is garbage. Of course it gives you energy. IT'S SUGAR!

Years ago athletes would eat a candy bar for energy and today we laugh at that. So what's the difference?

Sure, it's a great way to add calories and orange gatorade on a hot summer day hits the spot like nothing else. But having too high a level of a simple sugar present in the bloodstream inhibits GH secretion -- not what you want during a workout.
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Nelson you're always in opposition to the cocensus of most people. Were you always the squeaky wheel expecting the grease?

I'll admit you have some informative posts based on facts and conceivable theories, but some of your statements are totally off the wall in regards to clomid, cardio, and HCG(of all things to try to disprove). Get real bro.

HCG has been used by many athletes with great results, to initially restore normal endocrine function, and has worked time and time again, regardless of dose, duration and type of AAS used.
I also know quite a few endocronologists,urologists,andrologists who all know it to be very efficacious and have been using it for years with very good results followed by you guessed it...clomid.

I'm running off on a tangent here. However as far as gatorade being garbage, that's a bold statement to be making.

I guess you could make a similar preperation on your own, but the fact remains it is supportive in athletics because of the propper mixture of glucose-fructose as well as the ingredients used to restore electrolytes, there is also sunflower oil added in to control the release of glucose in order to avoid rapid insulin spikes. Gatorade is a muti-million dollar product. You think they haven't put in their dues towards R+D. Then there 's the possibility of other beneficial ingredients in their products, that are not listed, due to competetive reasons.

I think comparing Gade to a candy bar is like comparing pro-hormones to quality AAS.

BTW..GH secretion peaks 30-40 minutes after exercise, that is why it is reccomended to wait until the GH peaks before you slam down your PW shake, to avoid compromising your GH spike with a robust insulin spike, and I think insulin spikes will be miniscule when using R-ALA which is how this post originated.

I don't make my conclusions on issues from a couple of opinions, or a couple of journal abstracts. I use a compilation of periodicals, feedback from many experienced athletes and of course my own personal experience before I can draw definitive conclusions.

B32
 
Mr.Nobody said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11905937&dopt=Abstract

Influence of weight training exercise and modification of hormonal response on skeletal muscle growth.
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6% CHO solution? why not make your own and stop wasting money on gatorade... why the fuck do you think that shit is so aggressively marketed? they are not spending any money on R&D as someone else mentioned, it is all marketing... bottom line, gatorade is a SOFT DRINK with slightly less sugar!
 
b1ewsw32 said:

Nelson you're always in opposition to the cocensus of most people. Were you always the squeaky wheel expecting the grease?

I'll admit you have some informative posts based on facts and conceivable theories, but some of your statements are totally off the wall in regards to clomid, cardio, and HCG(of all things to try to disprove). Get real bro.

HCG has been used by many athletes with great results, to initially restore normal endocrine function, and has worked time and time again, regardless of dose, duration and type of AAS used.
I also know quite a few endocronologists,urologists,andrologists who all know it to be very efficacious and have been using it for years with very good results followed by you guessed it...clomid.

I'm running off on a tangent here. However as far as gatorade being garbage, that's a bold statement to be making.

I guess you could make a similar preperation on your own, but the fact remains it is supportive in athletics because of the propper mixture of glucose-fructose as well as the ingredients used to restore electrolytes, there is also sunflower oil added in to control the release of glucose in order to avoid rapid insulin spikes. Gatorade is a muti-million dollar product. You think they haven't put in their dues towards R+D. Then there 's the possibility of other beneficial ingredients in their products, that are not listed, due to competetive reasons.

I think comparing Gade to a candy bar is like comparing pro-hormones to quality AAS.

BTW..GH secretion peaks 30-40 minutes after exercise, that is why it is reccomended to wait until the GH peaks before you slam down your PW shake, to avoid compromising your GH spike with a robust insulin spike, and I think insulin spikes will be miniscule when using R-ALA which is how this post originated.

I don't make my conclusions on issues from a couple of opinions, or a couple of journal abstracts. I use a compilation of periodicals, feedback from many experienced athletes and of course my own personal experience before I can draw definitive conclusions.

B32
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YOu are so wrong in so many ways, I don't know where to begin.

You're taking on too many arguments. Clomid? I got shit for that one and now more and more people are realizing my finding were indeed correct. Get with the program.

Cardio? Don't get me started. But anyone who has actually read all the evidence and applied it will tell you I'm right.

Concerning HCG. I gave the reports of a blood test. Blood tests don't lie bro. But believe what you want. You don't have to believe the earth is round either if you dont want to.

Gatorade spent millions of dollars in R&D?

GET A CLUE DUDE!

They spend it on trying to get a good tasting product they can market to kids -- not on the benefits to bodybuilders.

And if you think I'm just tryng to be oppositional, this time you're really wrong. I'd say most anyone in the field who knows what they're talking about will tell you that sugar is junk food. Gatorade is SUGAR WATER.

I can't even believe that people on ths board are even seriously discussing this.

And as far as that study; man, take that with a BIG grain of salt. Carbs increase energy, increase muscle volume and prevent cortisol? No fuck! This is why I've been saying that low carb diest are bad. But of course, then I'll get shit for that one too. :rolleyes:
 
Nelson, I can believe they discuss it. Alot of really good bros are clueless about nutrition, and what they really should and shouldn't be eating. Thank god for some people having good genetics and stacking tren/t3/clen, or we wouldn't have many cut bodybuilders out there. Seriously, without decent genetics and a boatload of drugs, some cutting diets I've seen used with success would be a total disaster. These guys don't realize that they could probably eat the same amount of calories in junk food and fast food, and achieve the same results they got with their drug stack...the one's with decent genetics for being lean at least. Of course, remove their genetics or drugs... and its would be a different story.
 
Weight training exercise with CHO ingestion resulted in significantly greater gains in both type I (19.1%) and type II (22.5%) muscle fibre area than weight training exercise alone
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Forget the fight over gatorade or powerade or sugar water or whatever. Read above. What more do you guys need? Gatorade is an example and was chosen due to its convenience.....be my guest and mix your own 6% CHO solution....
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Nelson, I can believe they discuss it. Alot of really good bros are clueless about nutrition, and what they really should and shouldn't be eating. Thank god for some people having good genetics and stacking tren/t3/clen, or we wouldn't have many cut bodybuilders out there. Seriously, without decent genetics and a boatload of drugs, some cutting diets I've seen used with success would be a total disaster. These guys don't realize that they could probably eat the same amount of calories in junk food and fast food, and achieve the same results they got with their drug stack...the one's with decent genetics for being lean at least. Of course, remove their genetics or drugs... and its would be a different story.
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You are so right.

I'd say that 95% of the conclusions made on diet are based on nothing but erroneous preconceptions. Figure in all the variables, (such as drugs) and you can come to any conclusion you want to -- even something as stupid as thinking drinking sugar water helps grow muscle, which is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

And do you know why this happens? It's because of what I've been saying for years. All this nutritional manipulating, timing shit has almost nothing to do with the way you look. Anyone who has had succes with it had succes due to other factors, such as training, drugs or caloric and protein intake.

I know this pisses people off. I know people don't want to believe it. I know that it goes against established thinking. But it is right. I would bet my eyes on it.
 
Nelson, oh I believe WHAT you eat is important, I am a Nutritional Science major, but most bodybuilders work completely off of misconceptions perpetrated by guru's with no background in the field, and only achieve results due to genetics and or drugs combined with reduced calories. Someone without those genetics (me for example) would NEVER have abes trying to use alot of the BS principles you see bodybuilders using. Especally without the help of thyroid hormones and other such drugs. I'm refer to things like "not eating carbs and fat in the same meal", "eat alot of high GI carbs when trying to put on size", "eat more protien if you want to spare muscle tissue while dieting".

I will agree with you that drinking corn syrup (main sugar in most sports drinks) will do very little in the way of building muscle, and actually I could make a somewhat reasonable arguement that in some cases may reduce gains.

You are right on caloric intake and high protien being EVERYTHING to muscle growth. It doesn't matter if you eat high GI carbs, low GI carbs, NO CARBS for days at a time, if you total caloric intake and protien intake is high enough, you will grow fairly efficently in response to your training. Once heavy doses of steroids are introduces, these things become even less important. The drugs provide a curve.
 
For all those posting the Gatorade is all marketing that they don't spend on R&D simply don't know what you're talking about.
Gatorade was invented at the University of Florida, not by some marketing firm. They maintain an excellent website showing their R&D and explaining the science behind the product. Like I said earlier I have friends who work in this Barrington facility. They have hooked up everyone from MJ and Mia Hamm to Lance Armstrong and Michael Johnson, as well as amatuer marathoners like Michelle Power, to learn more about how the worlds best athletes respond to their product. They rely very heavily on their R&D. You people have to understand that just because a company or concept is bought by another company who wants to make a profit from it doesn't make the product less significant or effective.

http://www.gssiweb.com/
 
ulter said:
For all those posting the Gatorade is all marketing that they don't spend on R&D simply don't know what you're talking about.
Gatorade was invented at the University of Florida, not by some marketing firm. They maintain an excellent website showing their R&D and explaining the science behind the product. Like I said earlier I have friends who work in this Barrington facility. They have hooked up everyone from MJ and Mia Hamm to Lance Armstrong and Michael Johnson, as well as amatuer marathoners like Michelle Power, to learn more about how the worlds best athletes respond to their product. They rely very heavily on their R&D. You people have to understand that just because a company or concept is bought by another company who wants to make a profit from it doesn't make the product less significant or effective.

http://www.gssiweb.com/
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Please tell me you don't really believe this. Did they actually conduct research to figure out that you lose salt , potassium and carbs during exertion?

They got millions of dollars to come up with an artifically flavored orange drink with corn sryup, sodium and potassium?


I'm in the wrong business.
 
Ironically I have been getting gatorade at Sams Club in large quantities and using it with 1 glucorell-r preworkout...and it definitely works better than anything I've used thus far.
 
What the fuck, I dont own stock in gatorade, Ive just had direct experience that it works. You dont have to use it if you dont get it.
 
I`ll admit that ice cold Gatorade tastes great and feels good going down....HOWEVER..... The first two ingredients are water and sucrose syrup. (SUCROSE: a crystalline disaccharide carbohydrate sugar found in many plants, mainly SUGAR CANE and SUGAR BEET) Yep....its sugar water alright !!!
So IMHO .....I`m drinking a drink made from water and sugar that tastes good.....but so does ice cold Pepsi (which by the way has the same first two ingredients as Gatorade)
It (Gatorade) is a sugary soft drink with a few electrolytes added that tastes good......Its nothing more / nothing less. Thats my take on it.

But hey.........if it works for you........right on bro. :fro:
 
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