Fastest way of loosing BF without loosing mass

[MrRTTB]

What are your thought? If one would like to drop 1-1.5bf per week without loosing muscles, and not using DNP, what way is the fastest? Maybe some kind of "metabolic diet" ? Do not work anymore so I have the time. I have 4 weeks to drop 7-8lb of pure fat. Would appreciate every help I can get. I have lowered my calorieintake with -500kcal of my mait. Also using Clen at 100mcg per day, with 50mg winstrol. Every other week I do ECA instead of Clen. Also work out in the gym 5 times per week, also doing cardio 5 times per week. Really need help here. Thanks.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Keto Type Diet.

Now get tha fuck outta here and go eat some lard.

Peace, good luck.

 

[enrage]

Now get tha fuck outta here and go eat some lard.

Some humor for today:

There was a mature gentleman wandering around in a supermarket calling out
at intervals, "Crisco, Cris--co!"

Finally a store clerk approached. "Sir, the Crisco is on aisle five."

"Oh," replied the old gentleman, "I'm not looking for cooking Crisco, I am
calling my wife."

"Your wife is named "Crisco?"

"Nah," he answered, "I only call her that when we come to the supermarket."


"Oh? What do you call her when you are not in the supermarket?"

"Lard ass."

 

[diamonddiceclay]

do the metabolic diet-mon thru fri 30g or less carbs, sat/sun 65% of calories from carbs

 

[fiatconspiracy]

learn to spell

 

[BigAndy69]

Check out my thread on the online journal board. It's not the fastest way to lose fat, but it's very effective at keeping lbm because you have enough energy to train hard unlike keto.

 

[KWKSLVR]

Well, we all know what i'm going to say

Atkins, without a doubt.

I lost over 20lbs the first 2 weeks so you shouldn't have any problems at all.

www.atkinsdiet.com

 

[MS]

" I have 4 weeks to drop 7-8lb of pure fat."

The best way to do that is to drop your calorie intake 500 cals per day below you BMR (just ask if you're not dure what you BMR is).
On top of this you need to expend an extra 500-1000 calories per day worth of energy in the form of weight training/cardio/sex or what ever gets you heart rate elevated.

If you just want to see the scales go down over the next 4 weeks then follow KWKSLVR's advice:

"Atkins, without a doubt.
I lost over 20lbs the first 2 weeks so you shouldn't have any problems at all"

Mwahahahahaha sorry but I GAINED 16lbs in 3 days after my last competition. If your problem is mostly fluid retention then diuretics and/or an Atkins style diet will work well for ya. If you truly want to lose some fat then reduce your carb calories and exert yourself a bit more. Good luck.

 

[Athlete]

Try to eat 5-6 times a day.High protein-low crab-moderate fat.Train hard with the weights and do heaps of cardio.Remember patience is a virtue!

 

[Cackerot69]

MS, why are you so against keto diets? (I know you have a good reason, I'm curious).

 

[KWKSLVR]

MS, why are you so against keto diets? (I know you have a good reason, I'm curious).

That beats the hell out of me too. For some reason half the people here basically keep telling me that close to 1/4 of my body weight (60lbs) that i've lost was all water weight. If thats not BS, then i don't know what is

Hell, the initial part of ANY weight loss is water weight. Of my first 20lbs lost, 12 or 13lbs of it was probably water weight.

 

[Cackerot69]

Well most of them just don't have a clue what the hell they are talking about. But, MS does so that's why I'm curious...

 

[MS]

In no way am I against keto diets. I'll say that once again. I am not against keto diets. I currently have 3 clients doing exceptionally well on a modified Atkins diet. I am merely of the opinion that they are remedial, especially for body BUILDERS but for dieters in general. If all else fails (for whatever reason) then by all means try a keto diet.

I am against zealots. If you're not sure what that means then think of ben Laden or Jim Jones or many fruititarians etc....

Alfons wants to lose 7-8 lbs of "pure fat" in 4 weeks. As KWKSLVR sagely pointed out most of the weight lost in the first two weeks of a keto diet is water weight (more so if you're obese to begin with). So I feel it is misleading of KWKSLVR to IMPLY that he lost 20lbs of FAT in 2 weeks.

I don't know the composition of weight lost by KWKSLVR. Obviously a lot of it was water weight in the first few weeks. This is extra good news if you are hypertensive because your BP will no doubt drop as well. KWKSLVR is not a bodybuilder as far as I can ascertain, so a lot of the subsequent weight loss will likely be a balance of fat and muscle. That's fine by me (recommended by me) if your goal is to reduce overall bodyweight for health reasons. I just don't think that this is the only diet for people wanting to lose fat AND retain muscle while dieting. I also don't think this should be the first choice of a diet. I definitely don't think it's ideal for many bodybuilders who genuinely need carbs to maintain strength and muscle. I know I am at odds with mods such as MR X in this, but I gotta ask whatever happened to the concept of moderation in all things. A CKD can be useful for bodybuilders, but is not without risks both to insulin sensitivity and rebound weight gain once the diet is stopped. For the record I have counselled all 3 of my keto clients that they may have to eat this way for the rest of their life if they don't want serious rebound problems. They cannot control their diet when carbs are introduced and I still haven't found a way around this. Let's learn good lifestyle habits first and if that fails THEN we can think about extreme measures.

 

[Cackerot69]

Good post, thanks. So, why are you against keto diets? Haha, j/k

I have a suggestion for avoiding the fat regain, something that just happened to work for me (not that it will necessarily work for them, but who knows). Try putting them on a isocaloric-type diet But separate their carbs and fat.

For example, meal 1 contains 40g of protein, 60g of carbs and 0-10g of fat. Meal 2 contains 40g of protein, 0-10g of carbs and 20-30g of fat and so on.

Just a suggestion.

 

[MS]

Thanks crackerot, it's something to keep in mind. The only clients I currently have on a keto diet are females with a binge eating type of disorder. Give them even a smidgen of carbs and they tend to go WAY overboard. I know there is a close link between serotonin and CCK levels in many women with eating disorders, and I have also seen the results of bulimic/anorexic women that lose control of thier diet. So I am hesitant to introduce carbs back in to their diet in their circumstances. For the record I have yet to have a client that DIDN'T have an eating disorder fail on a standard high protein/moderate carb/low fat diet. I guess that's all I'm really saying here.