Deadlifts?

[Gambino]

^ hand strength is generated from the forearm...

 

[bran987]

Ever tried pressing on the underside of your forearm REALLY HARD with the thumb from your other hand? Watch what your fingers do.

 

[b fold the truth]

You can do wrist curls all day if you want...it is NOT going to build a strong grip.

Not that I know anything about having a strong grip or anything...

Holding a Mini-Cooper in each hand for near 25 seconds:

880 easily and without straps from 18"

325 lbs in each hand

705.5 x 1 Raw deadlift

I don't train my forearm muscles with extensions and wrist curls...I DO do lots of hand grip work.

B True

 

[Iron for life]

No one said wrist curls is the only way to train forearms.

 

[b fold the truth]

No one said wrist curls is the only way to train forearms.

I didn't either.

I said that forearm strength has very little to do with grip strength.

B True

 

[jerkbox]

I deadlifted today. I officially deadlift more than From Zero.

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Smurfy again.

 

[Bulldog_10]

I didn't either.

I said that forearm strength has very little to do with grip strength.

B True

There are different muscles in the forearm bro...some work across the wrist (flexor carpi radialis, flexor carpi ulnaris, extensor carpi radialis Longus and brevis, extensor carpi ulnaris, etc...). All those ones do is flex and extend the wrist.

Other muscles that begin on the humerus flex and extend the fingers...like the ones I mentioned earlier. So muscles in the forearm most definitely determine grip strength to a large degree...and when you train grip strength, you ARE training forearms mostly. Just watch your damn forarms when you grip...I'm sure you've noticed that when you train for grip your forearms get tired, right?

 

[b fold the truth]

There are different muscles in the forearm bro...some work across the wrist (flexor carpi radialis, flexor carpi ulnaris, extensor carpi radialis Longus and brevis, extensor carpi ulnaris, etc...). All those ones do is flex and extend the wrist.

Other muscles that begin on the humerus flex and extend the fingers...like the ones I mentioned earlier. So muscles in the forearm most definitely determine grip strength to a large degree...and when you train grip strength, you ARE training forearms mostly. Just watch your damn forarms when you grip...I'm sure you've noticed that when you train for grip your forearms get tired, right?

I took phys years ago...but I'm not a buff on it.

Actually...my forearms don't get very tired at all when I train my grip...because I'm training my hand and finger strength. I train my grip in the following ways:
Sunday:
Farmers Walks
Timed Thick Bar Holds

Wednesday:
CoC grippers from www.ironmind.com as well as www.smartstrength.com

Thursday:
Timed holds with weight plates for my pinch grip strength.

Strengthening the hands is not the same as strengthening the muscles in the forearms. Still...people can do all the wrist curls they want and it is NOT going to build a good grip.

B True

 

[Bulldog_10]

I took phys years ago...but I'm not a buff on it.

Actually...my forearms don't get very tired at all when I train my grip...because I'm training my hand and finger strength. I train my grip in the following ways:
Sunday:
Farmers Walks
Timed Thick Bar Holds

Wednesday:
CoC grippers from www.ironmind.com as well as www.smartstrength.com

Thursday:
Timed holds with weight plates for my pinch grip strength.

Strengthening the hands is not the same as strengthening the muscles in the forearms. Still...people can do all the wrist curls they want and it is NOT going to build a good grip.

B True

Oh man...listen to what I'm saying. You're right, wrist curls won't make your grip better, because it's training different forearm muscles. It's like saying curls don't work your arms because your triceps don't get tired.

But training the muscles for grip is the same thing as training the muscles in the forearm, because the muscles that flex the fingers are in the forearm. Aside from a few intrinsic muscles (adductor pollicus longus for one) in the hand, it's mostly muscles that originate on the humeral epicondyles and have their muscle bellies in the forearms.

 

[b fold the truth]

Oh man...listen to what I'm saying. You're right, wrist curls won't make your grip better, because it's training different forearm muscles. It's like saying curls don't work your arms because your triceps don't get tired.[/QUOTE]

I understand and agree. I was thinking that we were saying basically very similar things, but I get lost in the technical terms quite often.

But training the muscles for grip is the same thing as training the muscles in the forearm, because the muscles that flex the fingers are in the forearm. Aside from a few intrinsic muscles (adductor pollicus longus for one) in the hand, it's mostly muscles that originate on the humeral epicondyles and have their muscle bellies in the forearms.

The muscles that flex the fingers may be in the forearm, but it is VERY important to strengthen the tendons in the hand itself to have a strong grip. After a hard and intense grip training session...my fingers and the muscles/tendons/etc..in my hands actually hurt for a few days...not my forearms.

B True