Could it be time? I didnt want to think about it this early.

[burnthiscorpse]

So the last 3 cycles no matter the duration, or doses and no matter the PCT type or length it still takes me 3-5 months to recover.
I stopped my last cycle and did PCT because of a shoulder issue. On a side note both shoulders have reverted back to a state of complete tendonitis in the rear side rotator cuffs. Had this problem like 5 years ago. Took alot of work to get them back to being able to lift. So I'm unable to work out currently. Hell, I cant even hold my cell phone up with either arm for more than 30 sec without my shoulder being on fire

So I stopped last cycle last august. My nuts are full size. Have been for some time. I do notice a big size fluctuation from day to day. Depending on how I feel. Sex drive is there but some days its insane some days I could give a shit. Blowing a nut is very inconsistant. Some days it feels awsome, some days its wierd, or a let down. Contents have gone from about a gallon a load to about a squirt or two.
Having had a sperm count done recently for other reasons...that is also way down. It was about 10% of what would be considered normal.
I am tired most of the time. Irritable, but then i always was. Even if I sleep 8 or 10 hours I always need a hour nap at like 8pm.
Now, being totally unable to work out is taking its toll. My diet is shit right now and obviously that has an effect on test, mood, and everything else. I have been slowly cleaning it up over the last 2 weeks so i can start to do alot of cardio. If I cant lift I may as well lose the 30 lbs I could stand to lose. I promised myself I would never cycle again unless I got my BF% down to 8% at least.
I'm 35 in a few weeks. I know the obvious answer is to get blood work. Yes. I'm going for scheduled blood work soon. Plus a long talk with my doc. If my test isnt what it should be (i expect it to be <400) Then I will discuss TRT. She wouldnt administer it. She's a killer doc and isnt afraid to be aggressive. But the medical group of tight asses she is with would "frown" on it i'm sure. So she'll send me to an endo with no problem.
But then thats going to be an entirely different issue. After reading some of the awful trt situations from bro's on here i'm not putting up with any bullshit. I'm laying it out for the dude...I'm not fucking with andro-gel, we're doing injectable or i'm going elsewhere. I'm not coming into the office 30-45 miles away for injections. Give me the shit and i'll do it in front of you so you can see i'm not a moron. I'm not going bi weekly or tri weekly. WTF is that crap. Nothing like roller coaster test levels....thats healthy....and these guys are doctors?? AAAAAAnyways..
I was hoping to wait til at least 40 to have to deal with this. But i'm afraid I have broken my shit so to speak.
Other than blood work, any opinions? suggestion?

 

[hannes joubert]

I am assuming that the bloodwork would include E1 & E2 and free Test? (I know you've done plenty cycles and that this stuff should be self explanatory, but hey, better safe than sorry)

How long have you been lifting without a break? Perhaps your body needs 2 - 4 weeks off?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I havnt been able to lift since august of last year. Fucking shoulder problems.

 

[XMAN.]

u seem very knowledgeable on this matter just remember to ask for an AI and HCG with ur hrt regimen in case u choose to go with it, and keep us updated.
good luck

 

[hannes joubert]

I havnt been able to lift since august of last year. Fucking shoulder problems.

Hey Burn, yup, rereading your original post, that much was actually apparent, sorry 'bout that.

Perhaps going to an Endo is a blessing in disguise...The whole HPTA may be fried or in need of an overhaul...and not just your sex hormones.

If I may make a suggestion, see your Endo as soon as possible, have the blood panels done and then have someone like Zyglamail and/or Needto. look a the results and interperet for you.

From what I have read so far, these two guys know their sh!t and on top of that Needto. may just have a supplement in stock that you can use...

Good luck Bro, hope you are sorted asap.

H

 

[Zyglamail]

I havnt been able to lift since august of last year. Fucking shoulder problems.

Sheck into prolotherapy. getprolo.com to find a doc near you. Its worked wonders for various nagging injuries Ive had over the last 10 years.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Sheck into prolotherapy. getprolo.com to find a doc near you. Its worked wonders for various nagging injuries Ive had over the last 10 years.

Actually Zyg, there is a prolo doc about 25 miles from me. But the office visit is $400 for the first time then its like $250-300 per session i believe. My insurance doesnt cover it.
But I have actually pinpointed the issue. Thinking back to my aug 2010 ortho visit for a different reason I have overlooked a huge detail that has kept me spinning my wheels. Once it occoured to me last night I did some research and found it to be a definatley cause of exactly the shit i am dealing with. I cant believe i let it get out of sight out of mind. I have fucking bone spurs in both shoulders. right where the source of the pain is. Sitting there rubbing against my rotator tendons inflaming the fuck out of them.
I called this morning. I'm going 2/28 to set up MRI's surgery dates ect. I'm so pissed. I could have gotten this taken care of last year had I put 2 and 2 together.

back on topic....I said fuck it...I started lots of fish oil, and a dose of HCgenerate and Unleashed i had laying around along with optimum multi vitaminn yesterday morning. I actually feel noticabley better tonight after a few doses of all of that.

 

[kingplaya4]

Don't rely on the advertisers here, I will say I never did try hcgenerate, but as to other products that I purchased I got a temporary benefit, and then back to baseline. Maybe my body just sucks, but there's such a culture on this board I doubt a lot of others who aren't benefiting feel free to speak out.

Don't be too aggressive with the doctors or no one will want to work with you. I think they'll probably expect you to come in for injections for a month or two and then if everything looks good with bloodwork, they'll probably let you go off on your own maybe make you come in every six months or so.

When was your last cycle? I've never used steroids, but perhaps if it it hasn't been over six months maybe there are residual effects in your blood still? TRT for life is a big commitment. You gotta do what you gotta do of course, but I'd exhaust other options first. I'm trying resveratrol and maca, it's too early too say what the benefits are, but if you'd like I'll give you an update.

 

[Zyglamail]

I have fucking bone spurs in both shoulders. right where the source of the pain is. Sitting there rubbing against my rotator tendons inflaming the fuck out of them.

Calcium deposits are one of the mechanisms the body uses to try and fix laxity in joints. Its a symptom not the actual problem. Your insurance should cover the consultation and office visit part of prolo they just dont cover the injections themselves.

 

[XMAN.]

i have bone spurs in both my shoulders too my AC joints r narrowing and surgery is not an option for me , all the doc's i've seen told me it'll take time to heal by itslef and the bones to get back to their places just should keep training slow and light and take some breaks from time to time, well it's been 2.5 years now and i'm feeling a lot better but still can't do presses more than once a week and only can tolerate few sets (4-6 moderate ones) then the pain becomes intolerable and my joints get inflamed too much and it takes about 3 days to calm down. still using deca from time to time and now trying to get some GHRP-2 to inject it locally cuz it has a local effect plus it'll amplify my GH pulses. i wish there's a miracle drug that can solve this f**** situation