Could it be time? I didnt want to think about it this early.

[burnthiscorpse]

Don't rely on the advertisers here, I will say I never did try hcgenerate, but as to other products that I purchased I got a temporary benefit, and then back to baseline. Maybe my body just sucks, but there's such a culture on this board I doubt a lot of others who aren't benefiting feel free to speak out.

Don't be too aggressive with the doctors or no one will want to work with you. I think they'll probably expect you to come in for injections for a month or two and then if everything looks good with bloodwork, they'll probably let you go off on your own maybe make you come in every six months or so.

When was your last cycle? I've never used steroids, but perhaps if it it hasn't been over six months maybe there are residual effects in your blood still? TRT for life is a big commitment. You gotta do what you gotta do of course, but I'd exhaust other options first. I'm trying resveratrol and maca, it's too early too say what the benefits are, but if you'd like I'll give you an update.

HCgenerate works bro. Or I wouldnt use it. I have used it a bunch of times. As does unleashed. Its not something i'm doing for a permanent fix. Just something that I know will help and as long as I have it on hand why not use it up.
As for docs, i'm not going to be a douche about it but I'm not going to go through any ridiculousness either. If a few of them dont want to cooperate then I'll go through a HRT clinic. Simple as that.
I plan on going to HRT dose of HGH as soon as it becomes financially possible for me to do so.
My main priority right now is the shoulders also.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Calcium deposits are one of the mechanisms the body uses to try and fix laxity in joints. Its a symptom not the actual problem. Your insurance should cover the consultation and office visit part of prolo they just dont cover the injections themselves.

I checked bro. They don't cover shit. Either way the bone spurs have to come out. Most of the time from my recent reading it solves the problem if you are dilligent with an aggressive PT type program at home or at a PT. Being a quick 30 min or less outpatient proceedure and having a great ortho group I'm actually excited to get this shit done.
So once both are done (unless MRI's say I need to do something different) and healed and gone through some rehab strengthening movements...If that does not solve the problem then yes I will definatley be saving $$ for prolo. I have to fix the shit either way. Its certainly not going to get better as I get older. Yay I cant wait. This will be a fun year ...not....Shoulder surgery x 2 , Abdominal tear repair, complete ACL reconstruction and medial meniscus tear repair....cant wait. (actually i'm not doing the knee this year)

 

[thelion2005]

Relax a bit .....
Any topical testo is going to help, even Andro. I've done them all and most of the injections too.
And Dr can not give you cycle level juice. It is illegal.

So either do the healthy HRT program and be a well built, happy and strong, better than normal guy ... or go to the dark side and be the Capt of your own ship. I rotate. I hate being better than normal. I like extreme. But, there is a reality here.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Relax a bit .....
Any topical testo is going to help, even Andro. I've done them all and most of the injections too. I'm not fucking around with androgel period. Only situation I would is if I had to travel for any length.
And Dr can not give you cycle level juice. It is illegal.
I am aware of this. This is not what i'm after here

So either do the healthy HRT program and be a well built, happy and strong, better than normal guy ... or go to the dark side and be the Capt of your own ship. I rotate. I hate being better than normal. I like extreme. But, there is a reality here.I have no intentions of doing an "unhealthy" hrt. 100-150 mg wk will be somewhere in the ballpark based on long lengths I have cruised for in the past. Also gotten blood work while cruising and 150mg wk puts me about 80% of the way to maximum "allowed" levels. if I need to be on hrt at all

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