Bulking On A CKD

[collegiateLifter]

if you are going to go with any low carb bulking approaches, I'd recomend getting on a first name basis with those bacon double cheeseburgers (with some ranch, hold the bun).

 

[Deleted member 33117]

if you are going to go with any low carb bulking approaches, I'd recomend getting on a first name basis with those bacon double cheeseburgers (with some ranch, hold the bun).

Agreed, red meat is your best friend when doing a low carb bulk.

LK, ok bro, sorry if I didn't get to your PM, I have at least 5 waiting for me every time I sign on. Overhead is right, you will go into starvation mode when dieting if your calories go too low. At which point your body will burn muscle mass that useless muscle mass that is doing nothing but elevate your metabolic rate for fuel, and hoard bf, which it now needs as a last ditch fuel source for survival, since it is starving. For most people this happens somewhere between a 1500 and 2000 calorie deficiet. Meaning trying not to burn much more than 1000 calories a day more than you take in.

For bulking on low carbs, start your calories low. Around 15 per ibs of bodyweight and slowly increase. Add roughly 200 calories per day, per week. I would stop somewhere between 20 & 25 X bodyweight. Shoot for 2-2.5 grams of protien per ibs of bw. More is acceptable, however make certain your fat intake stays above 50% of your calories. Try to limit carbs to 30 grams a day most days, but an occasional increase is fine, a long as they are from an EXTREMELY low gi source such as natural peanut butter or other nutts. Make certain most of those 30 grams are in the form of green veggies. You need the nutrients and roughage fromthem for optimal nutrition, as well as function of your gi track. The one downfall for me is the high sodium intake I get on some days. While, I may not be gaining any real bodyfat, I am very smoothed out from the test and high sodium most days. However, most people are not as sensitive to sodium as I am. I can go from having nice abes, to love handles and no abes in 2 days, just from increasing my sodium intake a little. Actually its is starting to bother me, so I just cut out my test prop 4 days ago(added extra tren to compensate) and will be lowering sodium this week.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Yeah, I know canned tuna has alot of sodium and such, so I'll probably run into the same problem as you. Let's say I bulked to the point I wanted to be at, and didn't gain any bodyfat so I liked my body how it was. What would I do from then on? Would I have to follor the CKD lifestyle forever in order to maintain that physique or what?

And what about wanting to have the abs show through eventually? Drink less water? Eat less sodium?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Yeah, I know canned tuna has alot of sodium and such, so I'll probably run into the same problem as you. Let's say I bulked to the point I wanted to be at, and didn't gain any bodyfat so I liked my body how it was. What would I do from then on? Would I have to follor the CKD lifestyle forever in order to maintain that physique or what?

And what about wanting to have the abs show through eventually? Drink less water? Eat less sodium?

A CKD can work for maintaince. IF you are an endomorph or a meso-endomorph I think it is the only real choice. As far as seeing your abes, cut the sodium back yes, however do not decrease water intake. Try to drink more water.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

It can work for maintenance, I figured that much. But I was more asking would I have to use a CKD? Or could I use some other method of dieting so I can eat carbs again, and maintain my body?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

LK, it depends on your body. Some people always gain fat on a non-keto diet, regardless of calories taken in, such as myself. On a 2200 calories 60% carb diet, I'll gain a ibs a week, doing cardio 5 days a week. I've tried to diet like this at one time, and gained 8 ibs, all of it bf. I can drop pretty fast on 3500 cals on a keto diet though. The idea that "a calorie is a calorie" is such bullshit. As though they are all absorbed and utilized the same, and they as though they don't all produce totally different hormone responses. Your question is one I cannot answer without knowing more about you. Keto diets are a good way to maintain though. I like them for the most part, and feel very comfortable in ketosis.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Body, how long does it take you to feel good on a keto? The NHE author claims you will have even more energy than before because your brain is actually starving for glucose on a high carb diet.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

AAO, it takes a couple of weeks to get use to it. After a couple of months you'll feel normal all the time in ketosis. I get really sleepy during my carbups and need a good 12 hours of sleep per day during them sometimes.

 

[Toozee]

I really enjoyed the time I was on a CKD. I had a very consistent level of energy and a great deal of mental clarity and focus.
It took about 1.5 to 2 weeks to get there, but it wasn't bad.
I didn't really have any cravings for the most part, which made it even easier.

 

[cooligan]

For me the best part about a CKD when dieting is that while I still get hungry, I don't get that light headed, low blood sugar feeling.

And LK, this is something I really want to point out even though I'm sure you understand: don't dismiss BodyByFina's comment about proper roughage as merely a passing thought; rather it is of utmost importance. On a CKD you absolutely must either eat a ton of fiberous veggies or take a fiber supplement or both. I'm not suggesting this--I'm telling you--do it or within a week you'll be very unhappy.

Good luck.