Bench Press Shirts Shot Down by Ted Arcidi

[buffisthestuff]

another thought

If it is truely a battle of man vs. bar then do it natural right?
Because if not then it is really man + drugs vs. the bar.

Sounds kind of hypocritical to me.

 

[PowFit]

The funny thing is that this Ted Putz was using one himself. He was using one when bench shirt were not as popular as they are now and all the other lifters were not using them. So who was cheating? It is a level playing field now and that why he is old news.

 

[strongestsurvive]

I agree you should do it natural, I was using Kaz as a reference for the bench with out a shirt. A better example is Mike Hall, benched 600 pounds without a shirt, NATURAL.

strongestsurvive

 

[PowFit]

YOU USED KAZ AS AN EXAMPLE OF A "NATURAL" LIFTER??? I hope to god you are talking about unequipped lifter and not a natural lifter. He is far from natural. Glen Chabbot is going to be breaking Kaz's unequipped record this Dec 2nd anyway.

I think it is funny that steroid users are going to say people using bench shirts are cheating. WTF? Which one gives you more of an advantage?? Steroids obviously. Why throw stones if you are not a "natural" lifter yourself? I am not anti-drugs or anti-bench shirts. I am anti-whinning. I could care less what the hell people do as long as they are putting on a good show. I train with lots of powerlifters that are stong a shit without a shirt on. I am looking at a 500 pound bench at 181 wearing a shirt. Do you really think a typical lifter can beat me if I take it off? I might get 10 pounds out of it or I might get 75.. Who cares? That is the challange. To do the best you can in this sport under the given rules. If drugs and bench shirts are allowed you better use both, if you plan on being competative. If you are not competative with these people... don't tell me why... don't make excuses.. train harder and train smarter. If you do not like these rules there are federations that will work for you. You can compete with the drug-free unequipped folks. Good luck.

 

[Mesofreaky]

I'm just guessing but every single person arguing for shirts wears one.

 

[PowFit]

Since 98% of the competing lifters wear one, you are probably correct.

 

[1-dawg]

I have no idea who powfit is but he understands the essence of what powerlifting is today. It is absolutely not the same sport is was back in the 70's, 80's etc. The game has changed -- either change with it or be left behind with the dinosaurs. The fed's that allow single ply poly are dwindling and will continue to do so. All sports change with time -- swimming for example. Now they are wearing these suits which improve their time. I know just about nothing about swimming as a sport, but I thought it was great. I am sure the swimmers that are wearing the suits are not complaining. And I gaurantee they don't try adn bite the hands that are feeding them -- equipment companies. Without the Inzers, Crains, Titans, Frantz etc powerlifting would be stuck as a dungeon sport. Now, with these guys, supplement manufacturs, the WPO powerlifting is moving forward. WHy? Because people want to see freaky weights being lifted, not someone benching 400lbs raw and drug free. Even some of the competitors at the August WPO meet that nromally only lift in the USAPL came out loaded for bear with equipment, and the ones that didn't felt like they took a knofe to a gunfight. Even the great Eddie Coan came out wearing dbl ply suits and a denim bench shirt.

 

[The mann]

1-dawg,powfit......VERY good response....

 

[strongestsurvive]

Powerfit,
If you read my respone above I was refering to KAZ's bench as a bench without a shirt, not a natural lifter. Somebody then made a reference about a natural lifter, so I used Mike Hall's bench of 600 without a shirt. Just take the time to read the responses before you resond.

Thanks,

Strongestsurvive

 

[flex-mb]

OK. Here is my plan: I will take D-bol, Anadrol 50 and T-200 continuously until I have DD cup size breasts (hopefully my chest will increase by 8-10 inches). Then I will not wear a bench shirt so my breasts will stick out and up when I am on the bench. I will only have to lower the bar 2/3 of the way now than before I had breasts. This will undoubtedly give me a strength advantage due the increased leverage I will have (the bar will travel less distance). It will add at least another 25 percent to my max. Anyone like my idea? I mean how far can one go?

I hope the sport of Armwrestling doesn't go in the direction of Powerlifting! Imagine in Armwrestling if they stopped all matches that went over 5 seconds - wouldn't want anyone to get injured would we? We'd better get a special 'sleve' for armwrestlers to wear - wouldn't want their arms to get 'cold' while waiting for their next match. Better yet why don't we make everyone use a strap from the very beginning - wouldn't want someone with a larger hand to have an advantage over their opponent! Better yet, why don't we start a new thread? Everyone here has made good points and kept everything moving forward. You can't sell to a salesman (nobody's buying). There are too many salesmen on this board (including me).