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Am I eating right to lower body fat??

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Could somebody please help me, I want to reduce my body fat whilst training, can anyone tell me if what i am eating will help me achieve my goals. And or give me tips on what i should change.

6.15am
Small bowl of porridge with skimmed milk

7.00am
Training (Mon, Wed, Thu Weight Training & Tue, Fri Cardio)

8.30am (straight after training)
Protein Shake made up with water (Myopro) 1 serving
1 x Wholemeal Toast spread with marmite and peanut butter

10.45am
2 x Wholemeal Toast spread with marmite and peanut butter
1 x Cup of tea with skimmed milk

1pm
1 Apple

3pm
1 x Tin of tuna with a salad topped with vinegarette dressing.

5pm
Tin of Pilchards in tomato sauce
Apple

8.30pm
Chicken breast x 2 (or large tuna steak) with brockerley, baby sweetcorn and carrotts.
1 x Cup of tea with skimmed milk

I have one treat evening a week, normally a saturday night that includes an 'eat anything' evening meal and a couple of pints!!

Although i've been following the above diet for 2 weeks and i am starting to see and feel the difference, if i stick with it, is this diet going to be the one that gets my body fat lower than ever?? It'd be great to here some comments.

Regards,
 
new_user said:
Could somebody please help me, I want to reduce my body fat whilst training, can anyone tell me if what i am eating will help me achieve my goals. And or give me tips on what i should change.

6.15am
Small bowl of porridge with skimmed milk

7.00am
Training (Mon, Wed, Thu Weight Training & Tue, Fri Cardio)

8.30am (straight after training)
Protein Shake made up with water (Myopro) 1 serving
1 x Wholemeal Toast spread with marmite and peanut butter

10.45am
2 x Wholemeal Toast spread with marmite and peanut butter
1 x Cup of tea with skimmed milk

1pm
1 Apple

3pm
1 x Tin of tuna with a salad topped with vinegarette dressing.

5pm
Tin of Pilchards in tomato sauce
Apple

8.30pm
Chicken breast x 2 (or large tuna steak) with brockerley, baby sweetcorn and carrotts.
1 x Cup of tea with skimmed milk

I have one treat evening a week, normally a saturday night that includes an 'eat anything' evening meal and a couple of pints!!

Although i've been following the above diet for 2 weeks and i am starting to see and feel the difference, if i stick with it, is this diet going to be the one that gets my body fat lower than ever?? It'd be great to here some comments.

Regards,

You should count the calories in your food and find your BMR (basic metabolic rate) and make sure you eat 500 calories less if you want to lose BF. Also it helps to make breakfast and lunch your biggest meals with most of your carbs in earlier in the day and cut them out after about 4pm. You can use fitday.com to enter in all your foods to help make counting calories VERY easy and free.
 
harbinator said:
You should count the calories in your food and find your BMR (basic metabolic rate) and make sure you eat 500 calories less if you want to lose BF. Also it helps to make breakfast and lunch your biggest meals with most of your carbs in earlier in the day and cut them out after about 4pm. You can use fitday.com to enter in all your foods to help make counting calories VERY easy and free.
you should give him K for that, i's the only correct answer you;ll get. carbs for meal 1 and around your training is all you need. Period. All else, P/f meals...ever 3 hours.....all the same size. keep the furnace stoked. Your protein intake sucks, your food choice suck too for the most part. Keys:
FLAX, OATS, BEEF/CHICKEN/TUNA, NUTS, CC, AND GREEENS.
 
Thanks for your comments......

I am loading my eating diary into fitday and i can already see where i need to make changes.

Would you say i need to cut bread out completely?? Or can i keep that for post workout??

Does it hurt to relax off on the diet once a week?? or will it undo the good work??
 
but all joking aside, it looks like you're really putting forth the effort. so just give it some time, i'm sure you'll be pleased.
 
I went onto fitday.com and entered all my foods, the total calories came to 2200 and the split was Fat 25% Carbs 27% and Protein 48%

Is this any good??
 
new_user said:
Could somebody please help me, I want to reduce my body fat whilst training, can anyone tell me if what i am eating will help me achieve my goals. And or give me tips on what i should change.

6.15am
Small bowl of porridge with skimmed milk Quantity?
Insert a lean protein source. Egg whites would do.

7.00am
Training (Mon, Wed, Thu Weight Training & Tue, Fri Cardio)

8.30am (straight after training)
Protein Shake made up with water (Myopro) 1 serving
1 x Wholemeal Toast spread with marmite and peanut butter
Cut this out. You don't want a slower digesting carb source after you worked out, and you especially do not want PB because it further retards digestion.

10.45am
2 x Wholemeal Toast spread with marmite and peanut butter
What is that?
1 x Cup of tea with skimmed milk Quantity of milk?

1pm
1 Apple
You could keep this, I don't eat fruit when I cut. You need a lean protein source here.

3pm
1 x Tin of tuna with a salad topped with vinegarette dressing.
Excellent.

5pm
Tin of Pilchards in tomato sauce
What is that? Watch for added sugar in the tomato sauce.
Apple
Cut out, because it is later in the day.

8.30pm
Chicken breast x 2 (or large tuna steak) with brockerley, baby sweetcorn and carrotts[/I].
Cut out both of these. They are too high in sugar.
1 x Cup of tea with skimmed milk
Cut out the milk. You do not want lactose in you system when you go to bed.

I have one treat evening a week, normally a saturday night that includes an 'eat anything' evening meal and a couple of pints!!
A cheat meal is a fine idea. I would recommend making it tasty, but also high in protein and carbs. When do you train legs? I would suggest that you have your cheat meal after you work legs, an hour or so after your post-workout shake. You can reward an arduous leg workout, and restore your glycogen levels, all at the same time.
I would ditch the beer. I am picking up that you are from England, or a former colony. I understand that drinking is more of a cultural activity for you, but beer does nothing for you.


Although i've been following the above diet for 2 weeks and i am starting to see and feel the difference, if i stick with it, is this diet going to be the one that gets my body fat lower than ever?? It'd be great to here some comments.
I would say that after a month on any well put together diet, you will start to see some noticeable changes. Dieting is strange, as is the human body, because it is not a linear process. You will make great strides, hit plateaus , and then hit more strides.
Consistency is the key.


Regards,


I hope this helps!
 
If you want to add in something green I would suggest green beans. I don't know any science behind them but they are 20 Cals, 0g Fat, 4g Carbs, 1g protein and I find them nice to add to a meal earlier in the day to make me feel more full without really adding much to my overall numbers for the day. I've heard spinach is very nice but I can't stand the taste so havn't looked it up.
 
BlondBomber said:
I hope this helps!

Appreciate your input.....

I have 45g of porridge and 1/2 pint of skimmed milk - i will add egg white...how many??

Now that you have said remove the bread, pb and marmite? Do i need to add anything to my 8.30 post work out shake???

Marmite is a yeast extract spread, that each 4g serving gives you 1.5g protein, 0.8g of carbs and no fat, just goes great with peanut butter.

10.45 skimmed milk is zero as i now just have herbal tea, do i keep the bread, pb and marmite??

1pm would you suggest a chicken breast for this time instead of the apple??

3pm yippee!!

5pm Pilchards is fish, the tin contains 19g of protein, 3.5g carbs of which 3g sugars, fat 1.5g - will this be ok???


8.30 I will just take the tuna and chicken with the brocolli.....is it not too late to eat at this time???

I am a novice with all the eating, i perhaps need to make you aware i am on my first ever AS bulking cycle.....i have learnt so much over the last couple of days, will my diet be sufficient for a bulking cycle or do i need to concentrate on one thing at a time??

Thank you
 
new_user said:
Appreciate your input.....

I have 45g of porridge and 1/2 pint of skimmed milk - i will add egg white...how many??
I can't figure out how many cups 45 g is. Drop the skim milk (sugar from lactose). I personally eat 10 mixed w/1 yolk. There are 3 g of protein per egg white, so you eat as many as you need to fill your protein for that meal.

Now that you have said remove the bread, pb and marmite? Do i need to add anything to my 8.30 post work out shake???
If you are lowering bodyfat, no, but if you are bulking, then adding some dextrose would be ideal to spike your insulin levels. So, it depends.
Marmite is a yeast extract spread, that each 4g serving gives you 1.5g protein, 0.8g of carbs and no fat, just goes great with peanut butter.

10.45 skimmed milk is zero as i now just have herbal tea, do i keep the bread, pb and marmite??
I would suggest another complex carb source: oatmeal (steel cut being the best), brown rice, wild rice or any other slow burning carb soruce. What are your choices? If you want to eat PB, eat all-natural PB. Processed PB has sugar and shit added to it. I would say that a small bit of Marmite would not hurt you that badly, but it is an extraneous item.

1pm would you suggest a chicken breast for this time instead of the apple??
Chicken breast would be a fine choice.

3pm yippee!!

5pm Pilchards is fish, the tin contains 19g of protein, 3.5g carbs of which 3g sugars, fat 1.5g - will this be ok???
Not the ideal choice, because of the sugar, but a good choice. Eat at least two for this meal.


8.30 I will just take the tuna and chicken with the brocolli.....is it not too late to eat at this time???
No, it is not to eat by any means. You should include some sort of good fat source here. You will be essentially fasting the entire time you sleep, so adding something like flax seeds/oil, all-natural PB or oils (grape seed being the best, olive oil a second choice) will help retard your digestive process, and diffuse the nutrients from your meal for a longer period of time.

I am a novice with all the eating, i perhaps need to make you aware i am on my first ever AS bulking cycle.....i have learnt so much over the last couple of days, will my diet be sufficient for a bulking cycle or do i need to concentrate on one thing at a time??
Are you bulking or cutting? Your title is "Am I eating right to lower bodyfat?"


Thank you

I need to know if you are:
a.) cutting bodyfat
b.) intending to build muscle, while cutting bodyfat (building lean muscle)
c.) bulking in the traditional sense, but you think you will cut bodyfat because of the AS
d.) confused?
 
BlondBomber said:
I need to know if you are:
a.) cutting bodyfat
b.) intending to build muscle, while cutting bodyfat (building lean muscle)
c.) bulking in the traditional sense, but you think you will cut bodyfat because of the AS
d.) confused?

d. confused!!! (completely!!!)

I'm currently taking 500mg test enanthate and 300mg promobolan p/w, just started a course (first 4 weeks include 35mg day Anabol pink thai) PCT on hand to. 3 weeks in and my wife can see big changes already!!

With me being a novice i initially thought that i could diet whilst trying to bulk. The more i read into this the more i realise that i am probably wrong. I'm now starting to believe that i should start to try and cut after the PCT.

Without waisting the AS what do you suggest i do?? My ultimate goal is to put a bit of size on and then long term rip up.
 
dude, let me get one thing straight... you jumped into a cycle without having a cristal clear understanding of your diet first?
 
pintocca is right I am sorry but i was reading this post thinking well he is willing to learn and is taking on some good advice. Then i read you have started a cycle witht the diet you outlayed at first and are trying to cut and bulk at the same time???

you went from newby willing and trying to learn to newby who has no clue jumping in at the deep end and not reading all the posts pointing out that you are no where near ready for steroids.

what the hell are your stats mate including age.

I am 24
5 11"
208lbs
12% BF finished bulk diet and going down to 10%
I have not done steroids yet and am still learning loads and still buy books hoping to learn more.

what is your background in training also???
 
pintoca said:
dude, let me get one thing straight... you jumped into a cycle without having a cristal clear understanding of your diet first?

I did, but i've learnt so much by speaking to everyone on here.....i now realise that it wasn't the way to do it. I'm seeking help!!

Go easy on me....
 
new_user said:
d. confused!!! (completely!!!)

I'm currently taking 500mg test enanthate and 300mg promobolan p/w, just started a course (first 4 weeks include 35mg day Anabol pink thai) PCT on hand to. 3 weeks in and my wife can see big changes already!!

With me being a novice i initially thought that i could diet whilst trying to bulk. The more i read into this the more i realise that i am probably wrong. I'm now starting to believe that i should start to try and cut after the PCT.

Without waisting the AS what do you suggest i do?? My ultimate goal is to put a bit of size on and then long term rip up.

I can not offer any advice on the AS angle, as I have never had any experience using AS.

What I can tell you is that you would want to eat a clean, bulking diet.

You are not trying to dethrone Ronnie Coleman, so your bulking diet does not have to include 7,000+ calories a day.

What I would suggest is the following:
A. eat 1.5-2 g of protein per your bodyweight
-AS will enable you to absorb higher levels of protein
B. eat 2-4 g of carbs per your bodyweight
-I am not you, and I do not know your body composition, so you would want to monitor your carb intake versus any fat gain. I would recommend that you cycle carbs, to both keep your metabolism stimulated, and to keep your keeping you in a constant state of bloatation.
-I would recommend having your leg/squat and back/deadlift days be your highest carb days, chest and delts days medium carb days, and if you have arms day lower carb. The idea is that you want to eat more carbs on the days you will be exerting more effort. Your rest days could be super high carb days, or lower carbs day, depends on what you want
C. Make sure that you are getting a lot of "healthy" fats: olive oil, grape seed oil (best oil), sesame seed oil, flax seeds/oil, fish oils/capsules, ANPB, etc.
D. Make sure to eat enough ruffage and take a fiber supplement to aid your digestion because you are going to be eating a good amount of food.


What is your training like?

What are your stats?
 
benapollo said:
pintocca is right I am sorry but i was reading this post thinking well he is willing to learn and is taking on some good advice. Then i read you have started a cycle witht the diet you outlayed at first and are trying to cut and bulk at the same time???

you went from newby willing and trying to learn to newby who has no clue jumping in at the deep end and not reading all the posts pointing out that you are no where near ready for steroids.

what the hell are your stats mate including age.

I am 24
5 11"
208lbs
12% BF finished bulk diet and going down to 10%
I have not done steroids yet and am still learning loads and still buy books hoping to learn more.

what is your background in training also???

I know what you are saying, i am currently gaining some good size.....i didn't start doing the research on here until i was a couple of weeks into the cycle, i had only spoken to friends that are gym goers.

I am 33
5 8"
182lbs
BF?? need to check that

Been training for 2 years ish

Mon - Chest and Biceps
Tue - Cardio
Wed - Shoulders and Legs
Thu - Back and Triceps
Fri - Cardio

Train in the mornings 6.30 am
 
BlondBomber said:
I can not offer any advice on the AS angle, as I have never had any experience using AS.

What I can tell you is that you would want to eat a clean, bulking diet.

You are not trying to dethrone Ronnie Coleman, so your bulking diet does not have to include 7,000+ calories a day.

What I would suggest is the following:
A. eat 1.5-2 g of protein per your bodyweight
-AS will enable you to absorb higher levels of protein
B. eat 2-4 g of carbs per your bodyweight
-I am not you, and I do not know your body composition, so you would want to monitor your carb intake versus any fat gain. I would recommend that you cycle carbs, to both keep your metabolism stimulated, and to keep your keeping you in a constant state of bloatation.
-I would recommend having your leg/squat and back/deadlift days be your highest carb days, chest and delts days medium carb days, and if you have arms day lower carb. The idea is that you want to eat more carbs on the days you will be exerting more effort. Your rest days could be super high carb days, or lower carbs day, depends on what you want
C. Make sure that you are getting a lot of "healthy" fats: olive oil, grape seed oil (best oil), sesame seed oil, flax seeds/oil, fish oils/capsules, ANPB, etc.
D. Make sure to eat enough ruffage and take a fiber supplement to aid your digestion because you are going to be eating a good amount of food.


What is your training like?

What are your stats?

Thank you for all your tips and advice....
 
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