A Lifter's Iron Log...

[Tblock1]

Tblock why you gotta argue with everything everyone says... I hope that post was a joke cause it would piss me off if I typed that whole post out just for you to pick up on one little bit and say it's rediculous...

Ghetto: are the other PLers on cycle?

dude are you kidding....his whole post was about whether he can make better gains on his own or with the group. He'll have to find out for himself which one works better but to say he pushes himself as hard as anyone else and one squat session with some powerlifters was the worst pain of his life in ridiculous. There are lots of people in this world who push themselves to extremes.

Mike: Damn you got one bad ass brother!

 

[the.gladiator1987]

lolol @ this thread

 

[miked8c]

Damn Glad you have really let yourself go brotha. I can't even see the scooter that you are sitting on in your avatar, you just look like your floating through air in a seated position.

Broseph Stalin.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

All I really have to say is you don't have a fucking clue wtf you are talking about tblock.

You fucking puked after what, a 2-3 mile run. Dude I smoked your fucking scores back when I was in bootcamp.

Acting as if you have a clue what I am talking about is hilarious. I have been pushed to extremes many times. I've ran full out sprint for 3 full blocks hopping fences in 1 shot because I've been shot at. That was pretty extreme.

Saying uber endurance is extreme is true. Saying it's more painful than the workout I did hmm. Sure the pain lasts longer, but when you literally cannot get enough oxygen and you are expected to keep squatting 315 and deadlifting it back to back that's whole nother kind of pain and I guarantee it's more acute.

Just stfu mr 18 year old gi joe. Don't bother posting in my thread.

 

[Tblock1]

All I really have to say is you don't have a fucking clue wtf you are talking about tblock.

You fucking puked after what, a 2-3 mile run. Dude I smoked your fucking scores back when I was in bootcamp.

Acting as if you have a clue what I am talking about is hilarious. I have been pushed to extremes many times. I've ran full out sprint for 3 full blocks hopping fences in 1 shot because I've been shot at. That was pretty extreme.

Saying uber endurance is extreme is true. Saying it's more painful than the workout I did hmm. Sure the pain lasts longer, but when you literally cannot get enough oxygen and you are expected to keep squatting 315 and deadlifting it back to back that's whole nother kind of pain and I guarantee it's more acute.

Just stfu mr 18 year old gi joe. Don't bother posting in my thread.

I will bother posting again. You are an arrogant sack of shit. I've put up with it long enough in here....you're always saying how you are so big, and you can man handle everyone, and how you are so genetically gifted, how you push yourself so hard, blah blah blah. I never said I push myself particularly hard, I think I push myself but I'm not about to claim that I'm some bad ass who quote, " can push myself as hard as anyone can by themselves." You are pathetic. You're on steroids....28 years old (I think?). 240 pounds. Yet your lifts are nothing for your size. Seriously cut the arrogance back. But now that I said that, people's personality's online and in real life are often totally different, so this judgement is aimed at the way you post, not you

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Tell me how you really feel man. Come on!

I never said I was mr badass. I don't go making posts about how I have knocked punks out on a routine basis do I? Anytime I mention anything about fighting it usually has to do with how strength training improves your ability to wrestle etc. Not specifically how fuckin badass I am.

I never said I was so big and huge. I've never claimed to be super strong for my size. I've also admitted to having consistency problems over the years with my training.

I also never said I can manhandle every one. I never claimed I could manhandle anyone in particular. You are taking what I have posted in the past out of context when I was talking about mma fighters and how I know I am strong enough, but not skilled enough for it to make a difference. There's a big fucking difference. I have grappled with 260lbs monsters so I know what I can do. I admitted I would get my ass kicked because the skill isn't there. Mma fighers are in phenominal condition, but they aren't these fucking iron slinging monsters so many people think they are.

I never claimed I was anything than above average in being able to build size and strength. I have even admitted I either am in great shape, but not that strong or have to eat big to get strong. Nowhere did I say I have amazing genetics and can be cut and super big and strong at the same time. I did claim I am built very well for squatting and powerlifting, but when you have a vet pl'er who has squatted 900lbs below parallel in the gym telling you that then it's probably true.

I never said I'm billy badass because I can push myself as hard as anyone else. I simply know based off how many people I have known and trained with that I can hang with most people provided I am in equivalent condition. I can push myself very hard in the gym or in any physical activity. I didn't say I can push myself harder than anyone else. I said I believe I can push myself as hard as anyone else can. I could give a flying fuck about ultra marathon's or whatever you think is impressive. Try laying on your side for 8 hours a day swinging a 5lbs pick into hard clay for 2 weeks straight under a deadline. You cannot come even close to comparing your life to mine and the shit I have done and been through.

I have broken multiple fingers. I've been cheap shotted with a full on kick to the face from a steel toe'd boot. I've been jumped by 5 200+lbs samoan's when I was just a little guy at 145lbs back in middle school. I've been hit by a car. I've been hit in the head with an aluminum bat. I could go on and fucking on. I know wtf real PAIN is. You seem to confuse what I said about that circuit workout being the most painful thing I have experienced with physical trauma pain. They are 2 different things.

I am on steroids atm. You seem to be under this impression steroids turn people into superman. All I really notice is significantly increased recovery speed and I am the first to admit that I have average recovery ability when natural. Who the fuck cares if I'm on steroids. I have trained 95% of my life without them. I may not be super strong yet at my size, but I certainly don't have trouble gaining strength or size and that has alot to do with me eating enough to accomplish these things. I have been 10% bodyfat and in superb cardiovascular condition. That is not my goal right now. I've gained 35lbs in the last 7 months and it sure as shit isn't all fat.

If I had trained for 4-5 years consistently I would be far stronger than I currently am, but it is what it is. I'm trying to be consistent now and all things considered I have made fantastic progress in the last 7 months.

You might want to check your personality at some point as well by re-reading your ridiculous post to me.

 

[Tblock1]

Tell me how you really feel man. Come on!

I never said I was mr badass. I don't go making posts about how I have knocked punks out on a routine basis do I? Anytime I mention anything about fighting it usually has to do with how strength training improves your ability to wrestle etc. Not specifically how fuckin badass I am.

I never said I was so big and huge. I've never claimed to be super strong for my size. I've also admitted to having consistency problems over the years with my training.

I also never said I can manhandle every one. I never claimed I could manhandle anyone in particular. You are taking what I have posted in the past out of context when I was talking about mma fighters and how I know I am strong enough, but not skilled enough for it to make a difference. There's a big fucking difference. I have grappled with 260lbs monsters so I know what I can do. I admitted I would get my ass kicked because the skill isn't there. Mma fighers are in phenominal condition, but they aren't these fucking iron slinging monsters so many people think they are.

I never claimed I was anything than above average in being able to build size and strength. I have even admitted I either am in great shape, but not that strong or have to eat big to get strong. Nowhere did I say I have amazing genetics and can be cut and super big and strong at the same time. I did claim I am built very well for squatting and powerlifting, but when you have a vet pl'er who has squatted 900lbs below parallel in the gym telling you that then it's probably true.

I never said I'm billy badass because I can push myself as hard as anyone else. I simply know based off how many people I have known and trained with that I can hang with most people provided I am in equivalent condition. I can push myself very hard in the gym or in any physical activity. I didn't say I can push myself harder than anyone else. I said I believe I can push myself as hard as anyone else can. I could give a flying fuck about ultra marathon's or whatever you think is impressive. Try laying on your side for 8 hours a day swinging a 5lbs pick into hard clay for 2 weeks straight under a deadline. You cannot come even close to comparing your life to mine and the shit I have done and been through.

I have broken multiple fingers. I've been cheap shotted with a full on kick to the face from a steel toe'd boot. I've been jumped by 5 200+lbs samoan's when I was just a little guy at 145lbs back in middle school. I've been hit by a car. I've been hit in the head with an aluminum bat. I could go on and fucking on. I know wtf real PAIN is. You seem to confuse what I said about that circuit workout being the most painful thing I have experienced with physical trauma pain. They are 2 different things.

I am on steroids atm. You seem to be under this impression steroids turn people into superman. All I really notice is significantly increased recovery speed and I am the first to admit that I have average recovery ability when natural. Who the fuck cares if I'm on steroids. I have trained 95% of my life without them. I may not be super strong yet at my size, but I certainly don't have trouble gaining strength or size and that has alot to do with me eating enough to accomplish these things. I have been 10% bodyfat and in superb cardiovascular condition. That is not my goal right now. I've gained 35lbs in the last 7 months and it sure as shit isn't all fat.

If I had trained for 4-5 years consistently I would be far stronger than I currently am, but it is what it is. I'm trying to be consistent now and all things considered I have made fantastic progress in the last 7 months.

You might want to check your personality at some point as well by re-reading your ridiculous post to me.

Dude...reread your own post. It's all the classic symptoms of an arrogant prick there. You are basically saying, "I'm not arrogant at all, so let me just list off all the times I've been injured and how I've been 10% bodyfat blah blah blah." I just remember quotes like, "I have the perfect squatters build" and all.

But honestly this is just an argument online and a waste of time, so I want to put it behind us. I'll continue to look at your log and be supportive, and honestly you seem like a good guy I just dont like arrogance. I probably misread you and spoke too soon

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

I may come off as arrogant sometimes, but I have alot of experience to back up what I say. I'll be the first to admit that I have been a newb at one point in time and have done all kinds of shitty training methods. My first 2 years of lifting in highschool I did no direct back or leg work, at all.

I train around "national level" powerlifters. These guys have been consistently training hard for years and total elite level in their lifts without drugs. You think I feel arrogant when lifting with them? It's humbling to see the head coach who had hip surgery a year ago and who has done maybe 1-2 workouts a month since squat 650lbs like it was nothing...

I'm willing to drop this as well, but until you have done the workout I described you might think twice about calling it ridiculous. That's like saying running a world record speed marathon is more intense than running a world record sprint. By the very definition of intense the sprint is more intense. The acute level of oxygen debt/muscle fatigue experienced in such a short time frame from the circuit workout I listed is far different than the will to keep running on. The highest recorded heart rate ever was taken from a guy after doing a very intense set of squats to failure followed by high rep deadlifts with no rest. Alot of people don't quite understand that the circulatory system besides it's many various functions is there to support your muscles. Not the other way around. The fastest way to maximally tax your heart and lungs is through very intense physical exercise. Considering I used to jog 2 hours at a clip at good speed I have "some" understanding of the feeling you get when you have to "will" yourself to keep going and it's nothing like true oxygen debt/muscular fatigue/discomfort at the same time. Granted, there's a big difference between jogging for 2 hours and doing an Ironman comp or whatever.

My whole point of that original post about it better be worth it was the fact that the physcial level of discomfort is so far above and beyond what you, I, Mike or anyone else puts themselves under during a typical workout that it better yield great results.

Anyhow we can disagree. I called you an 18 year old gi joe. You called me an arrogant sack of shit. Fair enough.

 

[Tblock1]

I may come off as arrogant sometimes, but I have alot of experience to back up what I say. I'll be the first to admit that I have been a newb at one point in time and have done all kinds of shitty training methods. My first 2 years of lifting in highschool I did no direct back or leg work, at all.

I train around "national level" powerlifters. These guys have been consistently training hard for years and total elite level in their lifts without drugs. You think I feel arrogant when lifting with them? It's humbling to see the head coach who had hip surgery a year ago and who has done maybe 1-2 workouts a month since squat 650lbs like it was nothing...

I'm willing to drop this as well, but until you have done the workout I described you might think twice about calling it ridiculous. That's like saying running a world record speed marathon is more intense than running a world record sprint. By the very definition of intense the sprint is more intense. The acute level of oxygen debt/muscle fatigue experienced in such a short time frame from the circuit workout I listed is far different than the will to keep running on. The highest recorded heart rate ever was taken from a guy after doing a very intense set of squats to failure followed by high rep deadlifts with no rest. Alot of people don't quite understand that the circulatory system besides it's many various functions is there to support your muscles. Not the other way around. The fastest way to maximally tax your heart and lungs is through very intense physical exercise. Considering I used to jog 2 hours at a clip at good speed I have "some" understanding of the feeling you get when you have to "will" yourself to keep going and it's nothing like true oxygen debt/muscular fatigue/discomfort at the same time. Granted, there's a big difference between jogging for 2 hours and doing an Ironman comp or whatever.

My whole point of that original post about it better be worth it was the fact that the physcial level of discomfort is so far above and beyond what you, I, Mike or anyone else puts themselves under during a typical workout that it better yield great results.

Anyhow we can disagree. I called you an 18 year old gi joe. You called me an arrogant sack of shit. Fair enough.

Haha alright. I never said anything about that workout being ridiculous, it sounds like a lot of fun imo. Matter of fact, I want to give it a try now. My deadlift is at 370x5, squat maybe 270x5. What numbers would you suggest for it?

 

[ExtraMile]

Wow tblock... I could hardly believe those posts were serious, I thought you were joking at first. LOL @ you saying you put up with this arrogance long enough and won't stand for it ...haha. Ghetto has been on here for over 6 years and now there's some 18 year old guy swearing and cursing at him because he said he pushes himself as hard as others. Note he didn't claim to push himself harder than everyone. I don't even know where you got endurance cathletes from. Who the hell cares about that? The conversation was about lifting weights. Ghetto didn't say he pushes himself as far as an elite athlete. I understood his post as him saying he pushes himself like any other hard working guy who works out. And his results (bodyweight and strength) say to me that he obviously pushes himself harder than most people.

Jesus tblock you need to look at how rediculous you just made yourself look. Made me laugh thinking of some 18 year old in his bedroom throwing a hissy fit over the fact that someone else claimed to work hard. This isn't the first time you have started disrespecting other older, more experienced EF bro's and I don't know why ghetto didn't just report you for all the cursing and insults.

Show some respect man