Zinc: strong aromatase inhibitor - MUST READ!!

[Nelson Montana]

ZMA is a $30 version of $4 zinc.

When I spoke to Victor Conte (the "inventor" of zma) the studies he sited were a joke. Everyone was either deficient, under tremendous stress (i,e, Navy Seals) or pro bodybuilders post cycle. And the tests were done with normal zinc citrate, not the magical ZMA.

Since that time he and the boys at Biotest have made millions on the sale of ZMA.

I swear, with the right promotion, supplement companies can hype table salt as anabolic -- and people will buy it.

 

[hhajdo]

I am not smart enough for this thread. What is the consensus - Zinc BAD at 100+Mg per day but GOOD at 50 to 100 MG per day on cycle??

Just supplement with 15-30 mg ED regardless of whether you're on cycle or not..
You will not benefit from additional supplementation unless you're deficient in Zn.

http://www.cc.nih.gov/ccc/supplements/zinc.html

 

[DTOX]

ZMA is a $30 version of $4 zinc.

When I spoke to Victor Conte (the "inventor" of zma) the studies he sited were a joke. Everyone was either deficient, under tremendous stress (i,e, Navy Seals) or pro bodybuilders post cycle. And the tests were done with normal zinc citrate, not the magical ZMA.

Since that time he and the boys at Biotest have made millions on the sale of ZMA.

I swear, with the right promotion, supplement companies can hype table salt as anabolic -- and people will buy it.

Oh well.

The only two supplements I've taken that gave me noticable effects are creatine and ZMA. Guess I'm one of those naturally "zinc deficient" people.

 

[bunkka]

ZMA is a $30 version of $4 zinc.

Nelson thanks for reinforcing what I already felt.

I purchased Zinc, Magnesium and B-Complex (the basic compounds of ZMA) in seperate bottles and take the 3 every evening before going to bed. I figure I paid about 14.00 for the same thing as "ZMAss", basically, plus it's about 3 months of product.

 

[bunkka]

I wouldn't take that much zinc. I have read several times where certain minerals, especially zinc are toxic in high dosages.

Hmmm... so is baby asperine.

Moderation is life's key to happiness, IMHO.

 

[gainerxxl]

Just supplement with 15-30 mg ED regardless of whether you're on cycle or not..
You will not benefit from additional supplementation unless you're deficient in Zn.

http://www.cc.nih.gov/ccc/supplements/zinc.html

Sorry bro, you don´t nkow what you´re talking about. I don not reccomend to take 100mg zinc/day year round, but 100mgs daily WILL affect aromatase activity to a great degree, believe it or not.
10 weeks of high dose zinc supplementation will not affect your health, get real! You do test, d-bol, and a bunch of other stuff to fight e-related sides but you reject a natural supplement, that will do the trick just as well.

Sure, KAL produces zinc 100+ to poison all their customers, lol.

 

[Him1]

Gainerxxl:Sure, KAL produces zinc 100+ to poison all their customers, lol.

Dude, you just lost some credibility there, thats just dumb.

Sure, Marlboro produces cigarettes just to poison their customers, lol.

 

[hhajdo]

Sorry bro, you don´t nkow what you´re talking about. I don not reccomend to take 100mg zinc/day year round, but 100mgs daily WILL affect aromatase activity to a great degree, believe it or not.
10 weeks of high dose zinc supplementation will not affect your health, get real! You do test, d-bol, and a bunch of other stuff to fight e-related sides but you reject a natural supplement, that will do the trick just as well.

Sure, KAL produces zinc 100+ to poison all their customers, lol.

Actually, you don't know what are you talking about...
All the studies you posted were performed on Zinc deficient subjects...
KAL sells 15 & 50 mg Zn caps...

 

[shifti]

You all seem to forget most of these studies were done on "average" people. Whats the difference between most of us and normal people? Muscle mass. The more muscle mass you carry, the higher mg dosage your body will require of any substance. I personally dont see why a dosage of 100-150 would be toxic to any of us.