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Yesterday's post on Test-only cycle

i'm on 1cc of test per week(in my 9th week) and have gained 20lbs and lost 1% off my bf. its also my first cycle, which i consider to be a great one.
 
1 g of test would be silly for a new user. Why would you waiste all that money when y ou will get great gains from 400 - 500mgs of test.
 
sk* said:


Also if you stay on a certain anabolic for an extended period of time then you eventually start to see diminished gains (around the 10th week mark for me). However, if you take some time off and do the same cycle again then you will gain again.

-sk

I agree however this is not because the body adapts to the steroid. It is simply because the body required a larger dosage to achieve further results. Keep in mind that the body has surely added quite a bit of lean muscle tissue in this time period and therefore the same amount of anabolics will have much less effect.

Again, this is similar to consuming food. Let's say you take a 10 week cycle and then at the end you do NOT increase your caloric intake. Will you grow? Of course not. You will need to increase the amount of calories and if you increased your calories, you would again begin to grow.

The same with an anabolic cycle. If you continually increase your dosage in proportion to the amount of gains you were making, you would continue to see results long after the 10 week period.

The reason this is not done more often in the bodybuilding community is due to the unecessary stress on the human organs and this should not be accepted by the recreational user.
 
JKD said:
1 g of test would be silly for a new user. Why would you waiste all that money when y ou will get great gains from 400 - 500mgs of test.

You gotta love all the unnecessary repetitious blabber when some of us are actually discussing it based on ideas. At least support what you are saying for fuck's sake. :rolleyes: I don't mean to flame but I see it as a flame when someone out of nowhere gives his/her "idea" of one line without supporting when others are actually discussing it.

-sk
 
CanadianBro said:


I agree however this is not because the body adapts to the steroid. It is simply because the body required a larger dosage to achieve further results. Keep in mind that the body has surely addes quite a bit of lean muscle tissue on this time period and therefore the same amount of anabolics will have much less effect.

Again, this is similar to consuming food. Let's say you take a 10 week cycle and then at the end you do NOT increase your caloric intake. Will you grow? Of course not. You will need to up the amount of calories and of if you increased your calories, you would again begin to grow.

The same with an anabolic cycle. If you continually increase your dosage in proportion to the amount of gains you were making, you would continue to see results long after the 10 week period.

The reason this is not done more often is because this can cause unecessary stress on the human organs and this should not be accepted by the recreational user.

Well how come a simple rest in between the two cycles is enough to continue further gains? The break in between the cycles was the point of my last post ...

-sk
 
sk* said:


Well how come a simple rest in between the two cycles is enough to continue further gains? The break in between the cycles was the point of my last post ...

-sk

Yes, the rest will allow you to further gains mainly for 2 reasons:

1. The body has began producing it's own testosterone again and the introduction of an exogeneous anabolic will shock the body. Very similar to changing patterns in training style.

2. You will no doubt have lost some of the gains post-cycle and the body will again be ready for another stage of growth. Remember, the body can only grow so quickly. It must adapt to it's weight, which of course takes time.

You see, the body never actually adapts to the testosterone. It simply needs time to adapt to the mass that has been added. And then of course it will be ready to grow again.

Another key point is that even if you do allow the rest period between the two cycles, you will not gain nearly as much the second time around (this is considering the exact same cycle is used both times).

This is again, due to the fact that the body has grown and requires a larger amount of anabolics to continue the growth.

Excellent and valid questions SK. I appreciate the discussion.

Many of you 'young bucks' are very intelligent as far as using anabolics. I am quite impressed.
 
CanadianBro said:


Yes, the rest will allow you to further gains mainly for 2 reasons:

1. The body has began producing it's own testosterone again and the introduction of an exogeneous anabolic will shock the body. Very similar to changing patterns in training style.

2. You will no doubt have lost some of the gains post-cycle and the body will again be ready for another stage of growth. Remember, the body can only grow so quickly. It must adapt to it's weight, which of course takes time.

You see, the body never actually adapts to the testosterone. It simply needs time to adapt to the mass that has been added. And then of course it will be ready to grow again.

Another key point is that even if you do allow the rest period between the two cycles, you will not gain nearly as much the second time around (this is considering the exact same cycle is used both times).

This is again, due to the fact that the body has grown and requires a larger amount of anabolics to continue the growth.

Excellent and valid questions SK. I appreciate the discussion.

Many of you 'young bucks' are very intelligent as far as using anabolics. I am quite impressed.

1. Well it isn't just the extra weight that you lost post cycle that you gain in your next cycle, but point taken in that aspect.

2. There is no difference in the testosterone that your body produces and the testosterone that comes in a vial.

3. Our two arguments are really seeing one thing in two different ways, no real proof of either or. Take an apple for example, one person can call it an apple another can call it a red object with a tail. Both are right.

-sk
 
sk* said:


2. There is no difference in the testosterone that your body produces and the testosterone that comes in a vial.
No there is no structural difference but there is a difference as to how the body reacts to each.

3. Our two arguments are really seeing one thing in two different ways, no real proof of either or. Take an apple for example, one person can call it an apple another can call it a red object with a tail. Both are right.
I must crown you the king of analogies after this one. "A red object with a tail". LOL :)

-sk
 
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"No there is no structural difference but there is a difference as to how the body reacts to each." I'll take your word for this, but I really dont see why. :confused:

-sk
 
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