Yesterday's post on Test-only cycle

[CanadianBro]

First cycle is when your receptors are supposedly fresh, why not take advantage of that?

-sk

This is incorrect and a long-time myth in bodybuilding.

Testosterone in particular will effect the body of an IFBB Pro pretty much the same as a new user. The difference is that the Pro has years of training under his belt and has simply reached a level where gains are limited no matter which anabolics are used.

Where the novice has a lot of room to grow and therefore will significantly outgain the Professional.

The fact that the receptors have not been exposed to steroids previously really has nothing to do with it.

 

[sk*]

This is incorrect and a long-time myth in bodybuilding.

You're wrong and i'll give you an anology.

If I punch you in the face it will hurt a lot. If I punch you a second time in your face (at the same speed) it will hurt again but a little less. A third time would hurt even less.

Buttom line, you get used to the pain. Same thing with steroids.

-sk

 

[sk*]

Also if you stay on a certain anabolic for an extended of time then you bet your ass your gains will diminish. However, if you take some time off and do the same cycle again then you will gain again.

-sk

 

[macDbol]

You're wrong and i'll give you an anology.

If I punch you in the face it will hurt a lot. If I punch you a second time in your face (at the same speed) it will hurt again but a little less. A third time would hurt even less.

Buttom line, you get used to the pain. Same thing with steroids.

-sk

?????

canadian bro made a good point with the pro-bb and a newbie,,a pro is pretty much tapped out in terms of growth potential, thats why he needs a shit load more gear to: 1. maintain lbm 2. put on extra pounds . A new user hasnt nearly reached that plateu, thus effective dosages dont need to be that high.

 

[sk*]

?????

canadian bro made a good point with the pro-bb and a newbie,,a pro is pretty much tapped out in terms of growth potential, thats why he needs a shit load more gear to: 1. maintain lbm 2. put on extra pounds . A new user hasnt nearly reached that plateu, thus effective dosages dont need to be that high.

I guess you didn't understand my analogy.

Look at the second post I made (above this one), hopefully it will help.

-sk

 

[macDbol]

i get what your saying,,u didnt gain jack off a low to moderate dose of deca on your first time out, but i bet you if we made a poll a vast majority of ppl who did nore more than 250mg of test or 200-300mg deca on their first cycle gained 10+ pounds

 

[sk*]

i get what your saying,,u didnt gain jack off a low to moderate dose of deca on your first time out, but i bet you if we made a poll a vast majority of ppl who did nore more than 250mg of test or 200-300mg deca on their first cycle gained 10+ pounds

Well my deca was above 300mg if you average it out. 250mg of test?? That's basically replacing your natty tests with what's in the vial.

My analogy had nothing to do with what I gained though. Just saying that the body gets used to it and that's what everyone means by "receptors get used to it."

-sk

 

[CanadianBro]

You're wrong and i'll give you an anology.

If I punch you in the face it will hurt a lot. If I punch you a second time in your face (at the same speed) it will hurt again but a little less. A third time would hurt even less.

Buttom line, you get used to the pain. Same thing with steroids.

-sk

Interesting analogy ..... however still incorrect as far as steroids are concerned. Particularly testosterone.

You see, if this were the case, you would see Professional bodybuilder actually decreasing in size. Realize that a professional bodybuilder is on anabolics YEAR AROUND. They NEVER stop. Because if they did, their bodies and lean muscle tissue would dissapear at an incredibly rapid speed.

Their bodies never actually adapt or "get used to" the anabolics in their body as these athletes continue to make consistent and persistent gains (look at Ronnie Coleman over his 4 Mr. Olympia's...he was larger in each one)

The reason the amount of gear is increased is not because the body is getting used to it, rather because that is the amount required to take the athlete to the next level.

It is similar to food intake. The larger you get, the more calories you must consume to grow, correct.

The body never actually gets used to the food and stops processing it. It simply required more food to sustain the growth or achieve increased growth.

Therefore, there should be no concern that the body will get used to the steroid and not grow. It will. However, the amount of growth will be in direct proportion to which stage the athlete is in regarding genetic potential.

A appreciate your feedback SK as this is a very misunderstood topic in the world of bodybuilding.

 

[Stillgoing]

i get what your saying,,u didnt gain jack off a low to moderate dose of deca on your first time out, but i bet you if we made a poll a vast majority of ppl who did nore more than 250mg of test or 200-300mg deca on their first cycle gained 10+ pounds

Absolutely agree.

SK - sure your gear wasn't veggie oil in a pretty little package??

 

[sk*]

Interesting analogy ..... however still incorrect as far as steroids are concerned. Particularly testosterone.

You see, if this were the case, you would see Professional bodybuilder actually decreasing in size. Realize that a professional bodybuilder is on anabolics YEAR AROUND. They NEVER stop. Because if they did, their bodies and lean muscle tissue would dissapear at an incredibly rapid speed.

Their bodies never actually adapt or "get used to" the anabolics in their body as these athletes continue to make consistent and persistent gains (look at Ronnie Coleman over his 4 Mr. Olympia's...he was larger in each one)

The reason the amount of gear is increased is not because the body is getting used to it, rather because that is the amount required to take the athlete to the next level.

It is similar to food intake. The larger you get, the more calories you must consume to grow, correct.

The body never actually gets used to the food and stops processing it. It simply required more food to sustain the growth or achieve increased growth.

Therefore, there should be no concern that the body will get used to the steroid and not grow. It will. However, the amount of growth will be in direct proportion to which stage the athlete is in regarding genetic potential.

A appreciate your feedback SK as this is a very misunderstood topic in the world of bodybuilding.

It is pretty much common knowledge that they increase their dosages from each time, they don't stay on the same amount of gear year round.

Also if you stay on a certain anabolic for an extended period of time then you eventually start to see diminished gains (around the 10th week mark for me). However, if you take some time off and do the same cycle again then you will gain again.

-sk