Why Pinneapple?

[JKurz1]

WHy would my trainer have me eating 1 cup of pineapple with my chicken and oats in my SECOND meal of the day? Does this serve a purpose other than adding cals? Wouldnt it just spike my insulin levels? I am trying add very clean mass and very little bf? Would you nix it? Would a banana suffice? Any answeers would be reatly apprecaiated!

 

[Lee]

I sure hope youre not talking about a gym hired trainer.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

WHy would my trainer have me eating 1 cup of pineapple with my chicken and oats in my SECOND meal of the day? Does this serve a purpose other than adding cals? Wouldnt it just spike my insulin levels? I am trying add very clean mass and very little bf? Would you nix it? Would a banana suffice? Any answeers would be reatly apprecaiated!

From the hundreds of previous posts. YOUR trainer actually sounds pretty good in that knowing you need to Eat... and just eat.

now pineapple... I think it's got a good amount of fiber and if your eating it with other foods (chicken and oats) the sugar your thinking that will just zoom into your blood stream won't it's got other food and whatnot to digest, so I'd say it's quality... go with it.

in the Eternal words of Nike - "Just Do It!"

 

[JKurz1]

Oh trust me...I am brutha......I just like to know the whos and what and whys....did you ever know how incredible a food pineapple is?? Look it up sometime...everything from digestion to cancer fighting!

 

[velvett]

Enzymes

Does a body good.

Papaya is another interesting food.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Oh trust me...I am brutha......I just like to know the whos and what and whys....did you ever know how incredible a food pineapple is?? Look it up sometime...everything from digestion to cancer fighting!

definetly, i hear ya... wow, no, Very interesting!!

Good to know bro

I need more fresh fruit in my daily diet... but then i think... WTF... i just spent 30 bucks for a 4 day supply of milk, and now i'm out, LOL!

 

[obiwan9962]

sometimes the health benefits outweight conventional thinking and perceived drawbacks

 

[JKurz1]

no we just need to jack up the protein content and we could live off it......

 

[mm107]

i have blueberries every monring for the antioxidents/enzymes.

i love them in fact i need them in my oatmeal =]

 

[SgtSlaughter]

sometimes the health benefits outweight conventional thinking and perceived drawbacks

most definetly. I'm trading in my supplements for foods during the upcoming months... back to basics

 

[obiwan9962]

most definetly. I'm trading in my supplements for foods during the upcoming months... back to basics

there is that frame of mind coming back into the scene
dr andrew weil is a "new" pioneer in that way of thinking
and alot of the new wonderfoods that you see coming out now such as gojiberries and noni berries are found under other names in chinatown dried
i add gojiberries (chinese wolfberries) to almost everything i eat
i also add lots of seaweed, mushrooms, and bittergreens to alot of my food
alot of the herbs used in thai, lao and southern chinese foods have medicinal properties
even the common artichoke has a very cleansing effect on our livers

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I'll have to look for the berry section in my local grocerie store... not chinese but they have a large variety of berries last time I looked.

Good to know! Thank you

 

[obiwan9962]

I'll have to look for the berry section in my local grocerie store... not chinese but they have a large variety of berries last time I looked.

Good to know! Thank you

lol the chinese wolfberries aka goji berries are sold usually dried
but you can now get a liquid elixir

and remember kiwis are actually berries too
chinese gooseberries
lol

a mindset is to include foods from every colour group in your diet esp dark greens and reds and blues
higher in beta carotenes and antioxidants

 

[jpt]

bro, you should ask your trainer.....he knows your body, your goals and how you train. he put it in there for a reason right?

 

[javaguru]

My morning shake,
1 cup blueberries
1 cup strawberries
1/3 cup oatbran cereal
1 cup broccoli
2/3 cup milk isolate powder

I've been advocating more consumption of fruit than conventional bodybuilding wisdom dictates for years.

 

[Sassy69]

Some of my trainers have included the following in my competition diets : strawberries, kiwi or grapefruit. Pineapple is also a staple of my post competition detox diets.

 

[Miss24k]

As Vel said, ENZYMES!

Plus it's an alkaline forming food, to go with your acid forming ones.

 

[jenscats5]

Pineapple is also a natural anti-inflammatory.........I ate a lot of it post-surgery.....

 

[JKurz1]

ahhh...BUT its hjigh in carbs! Hmm thats whyu I never included it before I was told I had no choice....lol..damn I wish I owuldnt have read the increadients....couple with 1.5 cups of oats and 10oz chx, thats a ton of cals!!

 

[obiwan9962]

ahhh...BUT its hjigh in carbs! Hmm thats whyu I never included it before I was told I had no choice....lol..damn I wish I owuldnt have read the increadients....couple with 1.5 cups of oats and 10oz chx, thats a ton of cals!!

but it is early enough in the day to really boost the restm of your program

 

[chinnythehu]

My morning shake,
1 cup blueberries
1 cup strawberries
1/3 cup oatbran cereal
1 cup broccoli
2/3 cup milk isolate powder

I've been advocating more consumption of fruit than conventional bodybuilding wisdom dictates for years.

broccoli in your shake? how does it affect the taste of your shake? i'm sure it gives it a nice green color.

 

[Miss24k]

ahhh...BUT its hjigh in carbs! Hmm thats whyu I never included it before I was told I had no choice....lol..damn I wish I owuldnt have read the increadients....couple with 1.5 cups of oats and 10oz chx, thats a ton of cals!!

lol 1.5C of oatmeal is alot higher in carbs that 1C of pineapple.

1C of pineapple has 19 carbs and 2 of them are fiber.

 

[fortunatesun]

It's also psychological. Mid-morning is a potential danger zone for many people. It's the time of day when they still have a few hours of production needed before lunch and they're beginning to think about things like how bad their job sucks and so forth. Pineapple provides a mild spike, can satisfy a sweet tooth, and is unusual enough to be diverting. You can still hate your boss, but now it's easier to be a glib mofo about it.

 

[JKurz1]

mine says 1/2 cup - 17g of carbs........therefor 1 cup is 34........_ 1.5 c of oats = 115g carbs......bit too much for anyone. I'll nix it down to 1 cup, of both, plus 6oz chicken.....sound better?

 

[Craig32]

Helps aid protein digestion.

 

[fortunatesun]

mine says 1/2 cup - 17g of carbs........therefor 1 cup is 34........_ 1.5 c of oats = 115g carbs......bit too much for anyone. I'll nix it down to 1 cup, of both, plus 6oz chicken.....sound better?

No, follow your trainer's advice to the letter (no slipping, remember?). Buy a CoC or similar and do some grip training at your desk to burn off your energy reserves.

 

[gjohnson5]

Enzymes

Does a body good.

Papaya is another interesting food.

Yes , Bromelain is the digestive enzyme in Pineapples. Also pineapples are loaded with sugar, so eating sugar with protein is generally a good idea. You might wanna use some Glucorrel R with that though as pineapples have alot of sugar. Infact I think it's the highest GI fruit there is

 

[rnch]

it was a request from whoever is giving u blowjobs.

 

[gjohnson5]

lol 1.5C of oatmeal is alot higher in carbs that 1C of pineapple.

1C of pineapple has 19 carbs and 2 of them are fiber.

Oatmeal is low GI , pineapple is high GI. There is a huge difference in eating glucose then eating complex carbs...

 

[javaguru]

broccoli in your shake? how does it affect the taste of your shake? i'm sure it gives it a nice green color.

It really doesn't change the taste much and I'll even mix two cups into a shake for a protein and fat meal(with ground flaxssed and fish oil capsules). I hate veggies and it's the most tolerable way for me to consume them. I tend to down my shakes quickly, which helps.

 

[fortunatesun]

Yes , Bromelain is the digestive enzyme in Pineapples. Also pineapples are loaded with sugar, so eating sugar with protein is generally a good idea. You might wanna use some Glucorrel R with that though as pineapples have alot of sugar. IN FACT, I THINK IT'S THE HIGHEST GI FRUIT THERE IS

gjohsnson5 should win the karma award for this thread. Your trainer, JK, put pineapple on your menu because you are an ecto and need these types of foods to put on mass. A little in the morning with your protein is going to keep you going strong until lunch when your natural energy levels rebound.
Please don't analyze this situation now that you've seen the word fructose. Put your faith in your trainer, a national-level competitor.

 

[javaguru]

Oatmeal is low GI , pineapple is high GI. There is a huge difference in eating glucose then eating complex carbs...

Pineapple has a GI of 59, I would consider that a moderate GI; Oatmeal has a GI of 48.

Here is a list of low GI fruits;
Blueberries, raspberries, apples (40), grapefruit (25), green grapes (43), cherries, kiwi (50), plums (24), pears (33), orange (51), prunes (29), banana (51)

*Low GI is defined as anything below 55.

 

[gjohnson5]

gjohsnson5 should win the karma award for this thread. Your trainer, JK, put pineapple on your menu because you are an ecto and need these types of foods to put on mass. A little in the morning with your protein is going to keep you going strong until lunch when your natural energy levels rebound.
Please don't analyze this situation now that you've seen the word fructose. Put your faith in your trainer, a national-level competitor.

Let is be noted that fruits are not 100% fructose
Grape Sugar = glucose for instance

There is just as much glucose in pineapples as there is fructose.

Don't listen to me as I am just stupid, read the chemical composition
http://herbal-medicine.philsite.net/pineapple.htm


And on a side note , you don't wanna win my karma award...

 

[rnch]

i still say his gf snuck in the request for pineapple

 

[fortunatesun]

There is just as much glucose in pineapples as there is fructose.

Glucose is good, maybe even better than fructose. It's a simple sugar- not having the extra C molecule of sucrose. As a result, it's directly absorbed without having to be broken down in the digestive system where intake can be re-directed to storage.

Thanks for the link also.

 

[fortunatesun]

Click on the link, jk.Pineapple is also a mild diuretic- will help with the bloat.

And on a side note , you don't wanna win my karma award...

Why? Will I be needing some moonlight to read my posts?

 

[Miss24k]

Oatmeal is low GI , pineapple is high GI. There is a huge difference in eating glucose then eating complex carbs...

Yes I'm aware of this, however I was responding to what he said "pineapple has lots of carbs " not the Low GI foods compared to moderate GI foods.

Also people need to stop being afraid to eat a damn piece of fruit. I see so many people on here that are afraid to eat fruit yet they'll eat half a cow.

Oh and the GL is medium for oatmeal and low for pineapple. Might was well look at the whole picture.

 

[gjohnson5]

Yes I'm aware of this, however I was responding to what he said "pineapple has lots of carbs " not the Low GI foods compared to moderate GI foods.

Also people need to stop being afraid to eat a damn piece of fruit. I see so many people on here that are afraid to eat fruit yet they'll eat half a cow.

Oh and the GL is medium for oatmeal and low for pineapple. Might was well look at the whole picture.

I was under the impression pineapples were like 70ish on the GI scale due to the glucose content.

 

[gjohnson5]

Here Pineapples are listed as 94 on the GI scale

http://www.diabetesdigest.com/dd_nutrition2.htm

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I was under the impression pineapples were like 70ish on the GI scale due to the glucose content.

http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_food_diet/glycemic_index.php

DAAAAMN close... 66.

Personally, the way my body reacts to sugar (simple carbs in general) I'd pop some Glucorell-R.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

wtf.

why do sites have different GI ratings??

 

[javaguru]

The info is from the USDA site;http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl

1 Cup Pineapple
19.58 g CHO
2.2g fiber
8.48g Sucrose(GI 61)
2.7g Dextrose/glucose (GI 100)
3.18g Fructose(GI 23)

 

[turkeyrun]

My morning shake,
1 cup blueberries
1 cup strawberries
1/3 cup oatbran cereal
1 cup broccoli
2/3 cup milk isolate powder

I've been advocating more consumption of fruit than conventional bodybuilding wisdom dictates for years.

Broccoli in your shake?

 

[javaguru]

Yep, it's the easiest way for me to get my veggies, I hate all forms of vegetables cooked in a healthy way.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

sometimes the health benefits outweight conventional thinking and perceived drawbacks

So very very very true.

 

[gjohnson5]

So very very very true.

I agree that sugar isn't all that bad for you, but bromelian comes in a tablet form... No need to swallow sugar for a digestive enzyme that comes in high potencies without the sugar...

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

I try not to eat more then 30g of carbs in a sitting from fruit... but ya... my dude told me that pinapple is higher on the GI.. winter fruit are more ideal... but if you're bulking/maintaining I would really worry too much about it...

 

[a creed]

sometimes the health benefits outweight conventional thinking and perceived drawbacks

well put..............

 

[MR. BMJ]

One thing to keep in mind regarding bromelain in regards to pineapple, is that during the canning process, most of the bromelain and other enzymes get denatured. Sticking with the frozen or fresh versions should be used.

BMJ

 

[gjohnson5]

One thing to keep in mind regarding bromelain in regards to pineapple, is that during the canning process, most of the bromelain and other enzymes get denatured. Sticking with the frozen or fresh versions should be used.

BMJ

Even though me and MR BMJ have had our run ins , I definitly think he will turn you in the right direction.

Gotta give props where props are due

 

[Miss24k]

Even though me and MR BMJ have had our run ins , I definitly think he will turn you in the right direction.

Gotta give props where props are due

lol I assumed we were talking about fresh pineapple. oops lol.

Personally I don't eat any fruits or veggies that come in a can. yuck!

 

[JKurz1]

What the hell is happening to all my threads????? Geezus. All I asked for was a possible answer as to why my trainer would have me taking a cup of pineapple in my second meal and you guys have taken it to the extreme. Here's the answer, it helps aid in digestion, a good source of 15g of carbs, has many vitamins and minerals, and it tastes good with oats and chicken, (while also blunting the GI effect) end of story.

ONE CUP OF FRESH SLICED PINEAPPLE!!! ENJOY!

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

I dunno... I think there's more to this...

 

[MR Pink]

Yep, it's the easiest way for me to get my veggies, I hate all forms of vegetables cooked in a healthy way.

try broccoli sprouts ...that's a lot easier than eating full grown broccoli

 

[MR. BMJ]

The reason why pineapple has a low GI rating is because of its high acidity. This in return will slow down gatric emptying.

BMJ

 

[JKurz1]

it doesn't bro....it's on the medium-high end at 66.....

 

[MR. BMJ]

True, but if it were not acidic, then it would have been much higher.

BMJ

 

[JKurz1]

MOOT point lol.............It's been completely nixed, as all fruits have

 

[a creed]

MOOT point lol.............It's been completely nixed, as all fruits have

Let it go.................it's just fukin pineapple - not the end of the world.

 

[fortunatesun]

Let it go.................it's just fukin pineapple - not the end of the world.

Easy for you to say...

 

[gjohnson5]

???

You can get pineapple fresh

lol I assumed we were talking about fresh pineapple. oops lol.

Personally I don't eat any fruits or veggies that come in a can. yuck!

 

[obiwan9962]

are we done yet?

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Almost...