I really do get sick of this more is better attitude. People bragging how they take a gram or two of test and other ridiculous amounts of steroids. What ever happened to working out as hard as a motherfucker? If you use a reasonable amount of juice, and train as hard as humanly possible, then you can expect good gains. Just because you use a gram of test, doesnt mean that it will work so much better than 500mg, your body can handle only so much. And when you use the pro's as an excuse as to why you should use a shitload of juice, remember that they have been working out longer than you have, and it is their job to be huge, so they work at it day and night. They eat properly and workout hard, many guys you see taking huge amounts of juice workout half ass and slack off on their eating. I have seen guys bragging about taking a gram of test and 75mg of fina ED, and when they take off their shirt they look like absolute ass, and bitch about how they gain muscle, but are as fat as hell. Use in moderation and workout damn hard, and you will look just as good (if not better) than some shlub on 1.5g of Test.