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Why does everyone on this board thinks 500mg test is a good beginner cycle?????

FatChops said:
i speak from experience I did 500mg/wk and my gains were sweet 40 lbs total kept 25lbs.

FC

yeah but what did you start out as like 180-190

i had great gains too off of 500 mg a week but i also weighed 165 lbs
 
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I really do get sick of this more is better attitude. People bragging how they take a gram or two of test and other ridiculous amounts of steroids. What ever happened to working out as hard as a motherfucker? If you use a reasonable amount of juice, and train as hard as humanly possible, then you can expect good gains. Just because you use a gram of test, doesnt mean that it will work so much better than 500mg, your body can handle only so much. And when you use the pro's as an excuse as to why you should use a shitload of juice, remember that they have been working out longer than you have, and it is their job to be huge, so they work at it day and night. They eat properly and workout hard, many guys you see taking huge amounts of juice workout half ass and slack off on their eating. I have seen guys bragging about taking a gram of test and 75mg of fina ED, and when they take off their shirt they look like absolute ass, and bitch about how they gain muscle, but are as fat as hell. Use in moderation and workout damn hard, and you will look just as good (if not better) than some shlub on 1.5g of Test.
 
bigpimp said:


yeah but what did you start out as like 180-190

i had great gains too off of 500 mg a week but i also weighed 165 lbs

240 gaining off 40mg of var daily and struggling to keep weight down
230 gained 12 lbs. (kept 2 weeks after) in 4 weeks of 15mgs of dbol ED
215 gained 15lbs. off deca at 200mg weekly
180 gained 20 lbs. of 20mg dbol ED + 60mg of fina ED

A few examples - obviously I haven't had to rachet the dosages up much. Then again I rarely use drugs and my training is night and day compared to most bodybuilder types.
 
Well I'm on my 7th cycle right now. All of them have included Test. And guess what??? I still haven't gone over 700mg/week. And for the most part, they are ALL test only cycles! Started using steroids at 245lb. and right now I'm 295lb. with the same exact bodyfat that I started with two years ago. Now believe me, most people can't grow like I have, but in any regards, there is no law that says you gotta keep bumping up the doses each cycle.
 
CCCP said:
privet RussianBro! How tall are you?
è ãäå ñåé÷àñ íàõîäèøüñÿ? ß â Òàëàõàñè, Ôëîðèäà. õîæó â óíèâåð ÔÑÞ

Privet, bratan!

ß ñåé÷àñ â Ãðåéò Ôîëëñ, Ìîíòàíà. Óíèâåð çàêîí÷ó â Ìàå ñëåäóþùåãî ãîäà. Õîæó â ÌÑÞ. ß ñåé÷àñ íà 500 Ñóñòàíîíà. Ìîé âåñ óæå 175 (ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ 153 êîãäà íà÷àë ìîé 10 íåäåëüíûé ðûâîê). ß 5'10". Âîîáùåòî ìîÿ öåëü 190-195.
Äî ñêîðîãî, áðàòàí...:D
 
bigpimp said:



no prob..some people will never see eye to eye
but i am just saying what i have been told by guys that are 270lbs at 4% bf
but then again everyone is different and reacts differently, but i am still sticking to my fisrt post:)

cool bro...
 
RussianBro said:


Privet, bratan!

ß ñåé÷àñ â Ãðåéò Ôîëëñ, Ìîíòàíà. Óíèâåð çàêîí÷ó â Ìàå ñëåäóþùåãî ãîäà. Õîæó â ÌÑÞ. ß ñåé÷àñ íà 500 Ñóñòàíîíà. Ìîé âåñ óæå 175 (ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ 153 êîãäà íà÷àë ìîé 10 íåäåëüíûé ðûâîê). ß 5'10". Âîîáùåòî ìîÿ öåëü 190-195.
Äî ñêîðîãî, áðàòàí...:D

Now how come I don't have that font?
 
Ok then lets through this out to the floor, how much test enanthate a week should someone take who weighs in at 160? My brother is about 162 and worked his ass off the past few years to get there. He started out at like 130, he's only 5 foot 7, short like me. He's taken fina, small amounts of eq before, but never any test really. So how much enanthate a week for him?
 
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