Why does everyone on this board thinks 500mg test is a good beginner cycle?????

[cccp]

PIMP...i guess we don't see eye to eye...let me explain bro...i am 235 lbs and still growing confortably w/ 500mg test...why is it that everyone assumes dosages relate to bodyweight...it all depends on how much test is naturally flowing already into your system...if a 220 lb bber has naturally low test levels,then perhaps your theory MIGHT work...but if a 220 lb bber has naturally high levels of test...then what...?i really don't think bwt has anything to do with it,but rather the individiual himself and how much natural test is circulating in his own body...neverthless,if you consider natural test levels in anyone's body...you will quickly find out that 500mg/week is a whopping amount to anybody regardless of bwt...that's all i'm trying to say...---fyi

I really don't think that your natural test levels have any effect on what dose you should use to grow. Your body stops producing testosterone when you take gear, so those levels DO NOT add up.
A totally different reason is the number of receptors one has. But I'm not very familiar with that concept.

 

[cccp]

Hey, RussianBro, keep me updated on your cycle stats, ok? Ñêîëüêî òû âåñà íàáðàë, ñêîëüêî ïîòåðÿë, è âñå òàêîå. ß ñîáèðàþñü îêîëî íîâîãî ãîäà 300-500 ìã ýíàíòàòà íà÷àòü êîëîòü. È ìîæåò åùå äîáàâèòü ê ýòîìó 50ìã âèíñòðîëà eod. Åùå íå ðåøèë äî êîíöà ÷å èìåííî áóäó ïðèíèìàòü. ß çíàþ, íàäî áûòü ïîñòàðøå, íî ìíå 21 â Èþëå èñïîëíèòñÿ, è ÿ óæå íå ìîãó áîëüøå æäàòü. Ñîáèðàþñü ýòèì çàíÿòüñÿ óæå íåñêîëüêî ëåò..
Êñòàòè, ÿ òîæå â ìàå çàêàí÷èâàþ. Ó òåáÿ êàêîé major? Ó ìåíÿ MIS.
My stats are: 6', 200lbs, bf= ?????? well, I'm not cut. Õî÷ó åùå ìîæåò ôóíòîâ 10-15 íàáðàòü ïåðåä òåì êàê êîëîòüñÿ. I know you are cut, though. Ïî÷åìó òû ðåøèë íà÷àòü ïðèíèìàòü?

Ëàäíî, ïîêà!


Áëèí, ó òåáÿ ïî÷òîâûé ÿùèê ïåðåïîëíåí. Õîòåë ÏÌ-èòü âíà÷àëå.

 

[wartime100]

500 mg of test + 300mg of deca is a good beginner cycle that you will retain alot of gains from. Test is best!

 

[baryon]

I'm curious about people's response to EmptyWallet's question as I'm also around 165 pounds and thinking about taking 280mg/Week TestenPro (200mg every 5 days) for 8 weeks.

--baryon

 

[cccp]

yeah. now what?

 

[SanFrancisconewb]

I m exactly like Baryon as i weigh in at 165 at 6ft. My first cycle is going to be 400 (maybe 500) of sust.
(if i can ever get it/?@!)

 

[Surgical]

The best gains are made when the test is atleast 6-8 times above the normal endogenous level, which is about 75mg/wk.

 

[Miracle Man]

It is very difficult to put a cookie-cutter approach on how much testosterone one needs to take. Someone who suffers from a low baseline of testosterone will really not benefit much from 500 mg a week of any test. Someone with normal to high levels will respond to 500 mg per week. It will not take much for that person to be in that anabolic growth state versus someone with low levels. For the older bodybuilders 35 plus years and older, to get into that anabolic state with just pure testosterone will most likely be in the range of 1000 mg per week and up. Whereas a younger bodybuilder with a good baseline of testosterone will get into anabolic state at five and a milligrams per week.

 

[Lift Chief]

I think 400mg-500mg/week is a good first dose since it's a bit of a gamble whether or not you will gain well from 250mg/week whereas if you can't gain phenomenally off 500mg/week then you suck ass and it is probably your own damn fault.

Definitely!

500mg of test only for 10 weeks for a first cycle is a damn good one.

 

[Spidey]

I am only in my second cycle now so I don't profess to be a guru but...

In my own personal experience, test prop at 50 mg ed during my first cycle did very little for me except give me acne and make me horny as hell. That comes to 350 mg ew test prop which is equivalent to 407 mg ew test enan or 419 mg ew test cyp (taking into account the smaller molecular wt of test prop). During that cycle, I got lots of advise on diet and training from this board and did my best to incorporate it into my routine. I ate around 4000 cals ed with >300 g protein and worked out on a 4 day split. I know that doesn't sound like much to some of you but I only weighed in at 135 lbs (8% BF) to start. 5'8" and a classic ectomorph who hadn't gained weight in decades (35 yrs old). I have been lifting for about 10 years, give or take.

My best friend is androgen resistant. This guy can eat 6000 cals ed and workout religiously while taking enough AS to kill a few dozen M. Downey Juniors and he doesn't gain shit! It's amazing. This guy shoots 200 mg ed test prop and 150 mg ed fina and 50 mg ed dbol on just his second cycle!! I keep telling him to give it up; AS just aren't for him but he keeps trying.

Anyway, I digress. My point is that what works for some will not work for others. Everyone's body is different and reacts differently to AS. Test is the best for some but for others, something else might work better.