Why does everyone on this board thinks 500mg test is a good beginner cycle?????

[nautica]

I agree - 500 mg of test per week sux. I like 1000 mg per week.

Nautica

 

[JG1]

I prefer milder cycle myself. This is my fourth cycle and I still don't go above 500mg/test weekly, and I still make great gains on that dose without haveing to up it everytime. Although I do use things along with the test (tren, perhaps EQ)

 

[MadCow1]

Look at the bodybuilders now compared to those in the 50's. No comparison. Thats what people are after...get as huge as possible in the shortest amount of time.

Very true - personally I've never looked in the mirror and thought that I needed 20-30lbs. Maybe 10-15 (I'm 6'3") but I can't imagine thinking I'd look better with a total metamorphosis.

Still the real point is to look at the BBers and weightlifters in the 50's compared to todays newbie. If they gained off these dosages at their genetic potential the newb definitely should. The only difference is the training, most of the newbs on here eat far better than these guys did.

 

[Mikey D-time]

500 mg of test with an anti-E such has liquidex/arimidex is safe and gives good results. No need to worry about your sex-drive. Of course for a first cycle you may have different opinions: deca/dbols, Primo/dbols, test/dbols but I still believe 500 mg is a good dosage considering sides/results ratio.

agreed, although I'll aknowlege that everyone is different

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

i dont give a shit if you are a rookie or a vet
Big dosages = Big gains
Small Dosages = Small Gains [/QUO

Brillant!!

Just b/c someone can make gains on less, doesn't mean it's the best cycle, someone can make gains with NO STEROIDS, does that mean this is the best cycle for them? Of course not. If you want to make the most of your first cycle, you take appropriate doses, not as little as you can get away with. And 500mg of test seems to be a pretty good place to start, some may be better off starting with more, a few less. And why not use the steroid that got you where you are today, the only one w/ both AR and non-AR mediated mechanisms of action, the best all around drug (followed closely by tren), TEST. Not to mention it is a lot cheaper and more effective mg to mg than most other steroids out there (although again, tren is a close second). Bottom line, you want the most size out of your first cycle, test is the way to go.

 

[sauerbrauten]

i dont give a shit if you are a rookie or a vet
Big dosages = Big gains
Small Dosages = Small Gains

I agree 100%

 

[nautica]

i dont give a shit if you are a rookie or a vet
Big dosages = Big gains
Small Dosages = Small Gains [/QUO

Brillant!!

Just b/c someone can make gains on less, doesn't mean it's the best cycle, someone can make gains with NO STEROIDS, does that mean this is the best cycle for them? Of course not. If you want to make the most of your first cycle, you take appropriate doses, not as little as you can get away with. And 500mg of test seems to be a pretty good place to start, some may be better off starting with more, a few less. And why not use the steroid that got you where you are today, the only one w/ both AR and non-AR mediated mechanisms of action, the best all around drug (followed closely by tren), TEST. Not to mention it is a lot cheaper and more effective mg to mg than most other steroids out there (although again, tren is a close second). Bottom line, you want the most size out of your first cycle, test is the way to go.

Very good post, nice to see a newbie with a little back ground that can add to the boards. (Although, you will have some here put test behind tren, but everyone has their own opinions.)

Nautica

 

[jc21]

well the reason i think 500mg/wk is good for a newbie is cause it worked well for me. first cycle i used 250mg/wk of omna and it sucked. then i did 500mg/wk test and some deca and the gains were awesome. so people dont respond to low doses of androgens!!!

 

[MadCow1]

Bottom line, you want the most size out of your first cycle, test is the way to go.

This is most likely the issue. A significant portion of people want the "most".

Personally, when I experiment with new drugs (and I've done my share) I like to test the waters and see what it's about before I try to maximize things. That's my mentality and I am less critical of 500mgs of test than I am with the "classic first cycle" 30mgs dbol, 500mgs test, 400mgs deca.

Most guys will gain well on 200-300mgs weekly and the majority seems to add 15+ pounds over 8 weeks (most seem to be quoting 20lbs.). Is this not enough? I think that people who share my somewhat cautious mentality get lost on these boards and end up with mega cycles because they don't think they can gain on anything less.

 

[RussianBro]

Hey, bratan... Kak dela?
well, I still run my 500 of sust (last two weeks its Omna) and gains are good, damn good... I was silly to run 250 for first two weeks (while I was running dbol), but I wanted to play it safe, see how my body reacts to it. Well, I have small puffy nips, but I had it left from damn pro-hormones. I started at 152-153 and now at 175. No bloat, ripped as hell (watching my diet) and still keep my 6 pack... I think 500 is the way to go...
Now I can't wait to try fina in fall (smiling and rolling his tun on his lips).
by the way, moy tovarish, I hadn't used any anti-e. but i have Nolva on hand though...
do skorogo, bratan..