What's Your Take on Saturated Fat?

[Rayca]

Do you incorporate fatty meats or egg yolks, whole milk, and such into your diet? Even when you're trying to lose weight? Saturated fat seems to be old school now and not so diet friendly---a bad rap in my opinion, but what do you all think?

 

[machine23]

I eat whole eggs all
The time. I usually have 5 eggs ever morning. 3 whole 2 white. Meats is a little different. Sometimes I get a little fatty meat but 90% of time I stay with lean meats

 

[RottenWillow]

Do you incorporate fatty meats or egg yolks, whole milk, and such into your diet? Even when you're trying to lose weight? Saturated fat seems to be old school now and not so diet friendly---a bad rap in my opinion, but what do you all think?

I think you're leading the discussion towards serum lipids. It's true the old school of thought that dietary saturated fat is necessarily bad for serum lipids has been contradicted by several studies over the last 10 years. Dietary saturated fats may not have any effect at all on vldl produced by the liver.

There are other reasons to avoid most sources of dietary saturated fat though. Saturated fat (along with cholesterol) retards intrahepatic bile flow, can exacerbate the effect of occult gall stones, and is definitely bad for those of us with fatty liver.

 

[shirlene29]

I'd eat someone face off while naked right now for a god damned egg yolk

 

[shirlene29]

wait...what was the question again?

oh right
I take it on a case by case basis...fat in meats..not so much
fats in eggs and dairy..Im cool with

 

[David_Brown]

Although you wouldn't know it from all the negative press, saturated fats have been largely exonerated of any connection to clogged arteries.
(Google - Saturated fat and cardiovascular disease: The discrepancy between the scientific literature and dietary advice)

In a recent Texas A&M strength training study, 60 to 69 year old subjects with higher LDL levels surprised researchers by gaining more strength than subjects with lower LDL (Google - EurekAlert LDL)

In South Africa fitness guru Timothy Noakes caused quite a stir when he recommended increased intake of saturated fats. (Google - Tim Noakes on carbohydrates: Health24: Fitness) Dietitians said, "We informed Prof Noakes that in his case he is actually referring to a high quality fat diet and that the reference to saturated fat is misleading and have enormous public health consequences. We stated that the evidence is clear that replacing saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat decreases the risk of coronary heart disease." (Google - Visit to Professor Tim Noakes)

Advice to replace saturated fats with polyunsaturated oils is dangerous. (Google - David Brown Guest Writer)

 

[Rebecca D]

Although you wouldn't know it from all the negative press, saturated fats have been largely exonerated of any connection to clogged arteries.
(Google - Saturated fat and cardiovascular disease: The discrepancy between the scientific literature and dietary advice)

In a recent Texas A&M strength training study, 60 to 69 year old subjects with higher LDL levels surprised researchers by gaining more strength than subjects with lower LDL (Google - EurekAlert LDL)

In South Africa fitness guru Timothy Noakes caused quite a stir when he recommended increased intake of saturated fats. (Google - Tim Noakes on carbohydrates: Health24: Fitness) Dietitians said, "We informed Prof Noakes that in his case he is actually referring to a high quality fat diet and that the reference to saturated fat is misleading and have enormous public health consequences. We stated that the evidence is clear that replacing saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat decreases the risk of coronary heart disease." (Google - Visit to Professor Tim Noakes)

Advice to replace saturated fats with polyunsaturated oils is dangerous. (Google - David Brown Guest Writer)

This is just Atkins recycled. Most diets will work if you eat healthy and eat less.

Read this response to Noakes.

Daily Maverick - Tim Noakes on carbohydrates - fad or fact?

 

[Headholio]

I don't think it's safe to say that saturated fats have been exonerated as being a bad player in cardiovascular disease. There's a pretty good pile of data over many years showing that high fat diets increase LDL and risk of CVD. But metabolism is extremely complicated. New research on low carb diets and ketosis yield unexpected positive results. But you can't equate the results of eating high fat while in a state of ketosis, with a normal high fat diet diet. Also, lowering fat in the diet may or may not be beneficial, depending on what those calories are replaced with. If you substitute some of your saturated fat (SAFA) with sugar, you may be doing more harm than good. but substituting SAFA with PUFA and or MUFA has been shown to be beneficial.
There are also different saturated fatty acids with different effects on blood lipids.
The more I read, the less I know.

 

[RottenWillow]

I don't think it's safe to say that saturated fats have been exonerated as being a bad player in cardiovascular disease. There's a pretty good pile of data over many years showing that high fat diets increase LDL and risk of CVD. But metabolism is extremely complicated. New research on low carb diets and ketosis yield unexpected positive results. But you can't equate the results of eating high fat while in a state of ketosis, with a normal high fat diet diet. Also, lowering fat in the diet may or may not be beneficial, depending on what those calories are replaced with. If you substitute some of your saturated fat (SAFA) with sugar, you may be doing more harm than good. but substituting SAFA with PUFA and or MUFA has been shown to be beneficial.
There are also different saturated fatty acids with different effects on blood lipids.
The more I read, the less I know.

I experience the sentiment in your closing statement most every day.

 

[shirlene29]

ditto on that