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whats a cv dead? are they a good replacement for glute/hams or are they thrown in only for variety?
 
jeremys said:
whats a cv dead? are they a good replacement for glute/hams or are they thrown in only for variety?

I apologize...Spatts said it was a Conventional Deadlift...and that is wrong. That is MY FAULT. I am the one that wrote that routine many months ago...and I didn't explain what a CV Deadlift actually was

A CV Deadlift is a partial deadlift using a low cable. Place your feet close to the base of the cable...and try to lean back as far as you can. The focus should be on pulling back and rotating your hips through. It is good to do these for higher reps. No they are not a good replacement for glut/ham raises...as you said they are for variety.
 
I know what they are in my routine, silly. I didn't realize he was talking about my split. I've seen conventionals abbreviated cv, and sumos "sm."
 
spatts said:
I know what they are in my routine, silly. I didn't realize he was talking about my split. I've seen conventionals abbreviated cv, and sumos "sm."

Gotcha...just making sure that we were all on the same page. It's funny I put that on the routine originally..and I don't think we have ever done them.

:lmao:
 
I wrote the interview on T-mag with Louie Simmons from WSB and it's all about speed and momentum with those boys since the objective is simply lifting more weight -- which has absolutely nothing to do with building muscle. (In case you care).
 
Nelson Montana said:
I wrote the interview on T-mag with Louie Simmons from WSB and it's all about speed and momentum with those boys since the objective is simply lifting more weight -- which has absolutely nothing to do with building muscle. (In case you care).

I disagree....

More muscle moves more weight...especially when you train it with speed, momentum, and proper leverage...

B True
 
B True,

More muscle moves more weight but that doesn't mean more weight grows more muscle. None of the guys that I've seen at WSB have particulaly good physiques. (Not that they care. Again, their thing is lifting X amout of weight from point A to point B) They're just big guys with naturally dense bones and great tendon and ligement insertions. Compare them to a guy like Serge Nubret who did curls with 25 pounds for 15 sets of 15 reps. Paul Dillet also trains light and he seems to have put on a bit of muscle. Growth is about stressing the muscle -- which can come from more weight, speed, duration of rest between sets, more volume, or more intensity. But it never comes from momentum. That just lessens the stress.
 
So basically you agree that more muscle (in the proper areas for strength) moves more weight? And who wouldn't be interested in better momentum and leverage when their goal is to move more weight???

B True
 
Nelson Montana said:
B True,

More muscle moves more weight but that doesn't mean more weight grows more muscle. None of the guys that I've seen at WSB have particulaly good physiques. (Not that they care. Again, their thing is lifting X amout of weight from point A to point B) They're just big guys with naturally dense bones and great tendon and ligement insertions. Compare them to a guy like Serge Nubret who did curls with 25 pounds for 15 sets of 15 reps. Paul Dillet also trains light and he seems to have put on a bit of muscle. Growth is about stressing the muscle -- which can come from more weight, speed, duration of rest between sets, more volume, or more intensity. But it never comes from momentum. That just lessens the stress.

More weight does generally build more muscle. My arms, chest, back, delts are all bigger after I gained 100+ pounds on my bench press since I started the westside program.

I dont think all of those powerlifers have great tendon and ligement insertions. Yes, many do.

Several powerlifters started with average genetic abilities (tendons, ligaments) and have become exceptional powerlifters.
 
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