Very confused about which routine to stick with long term ??

[Kabeetz]

Dingo..the answer is there is no one program. Your body needs to changes and to try to mix things up..different exercises, different stimuli, different rep ranges, most importantly... MORE WEIGHT ADDED TO THE BAR.

Stick with what works. If you are growing/gaining on the 5x5 don't think about stopping. But the day you come to a wall..don't be afraid to try something different. Not for the same of difference, but to explore and grow.

However, keep in mind this.. if you are not getting stronger, if you are not adding weight to that bar, if your muscles are not growing... then change for change's sake is useless.

In the end, the only thing that matters is results.

 

[thebadguy54]

You did not gain 10lbs from the 5x5. You gained 10lbs from consuming more calories than you expended. You could have done a strict isolation Nautilus circuit all summer and ended up 10lbs heavier. Fortunately, you didn't and you ended up stronger.

I'll echo what the previous posters said. The program you did was to give you a decent foundation of strength. If you want to go with a high rep hypertrophy routine, fine. But you didn't waste your time. More weight on the bar is always going to provide more stimulus no matter what the rep scheme, and you will definitely be able to do a high rep routine with more weight than you would have otherwise.

This shit takes time. Stop being so impatient.

Great post beerdrinker.

sirdingo... what are your goals exactly? Do you want to look strong? Do you want to look like a "body builder".

Or do you actually want to be strong?

 

[SirDingo]

Great post beerdrinker.

sirdingo... what are your goals exactly? Do you want to look strong? Do you want to look like a "body builder".

Or do you actually want to be strong?

I want to look like a BB, have bigger arms than most for my size, and nice chest and shoulders. I do NOT intend to ever aspire to look like Arnold type huge, I don't have the time to get that big, and actually would not want to.

But a body where people look at me and say yeah he works out for that body, but also have usable strength to go with that muscle

This is the routine I have been following all Summer;
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_8817/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

 

[gentoo]

That's not the 5x5 I was expecting. I only read his first post though. It goes against whats in this thread and it's what I'm currently following, but I can't say how well it works until I get a few months into it.

I'm doing this one located here:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...er-madcow2-thanx-so-here-k-up-now-375215.html

Also the guy on your link says you can't train a body part more than once a week and I thought the whole fact about the muscle needing that much time to recover was not correct, at least according to what I have read at the HST site and othere. It's the CNS that needs time correct?

My gut says that the madcow 5x5 will be better for you at this time.

 

[Tweakle]

I don't have the time to get that big

Have you considered taking the next step? It sounds like you've reached your natural potential and won't get any bigger without assistance.

Maybe Dec a 200 from the Roid Store stacked with Dermacrine could be the answer.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Have you considered taking the next step? It sounds like you've reached your natural potential and won't get any bigger without assistance.

Maybe Dec a 200 from the Roid Store stacked with Dermacrine could be the answer.

hah

 

[thebadguy54]

I want to look like a BB, have bigger arms than most for my size, and nice chest and shoulders. I do NOT intend to ever aspire to look like Arnold type huge, I don't have the time to get that big, and actually would not want to.

But a body where people look at me and say yeah he works out for that body, but also have usable strength to go with that muscle

This is the routine I have been following all Summer;
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_8817/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

That program seems all right for a beginner. I wouldn't follow it for more than 3 months if I were a beginner. The workload is nowhere near what I do from week to week.

How long have you been working out?

 

[SirDingo]

That program seems all right for a beginner. I wouldn't follow it for more than 3 months if I were a beginner. The workload is nowhere near what I do from week to week.

How long have you been working out?

I am 34yrs old, have worked out allot years ago, then just got back into weight lifting late last year, but never gained anything from doing it, was just doing 3sets of 8 on everything, plus body workouts like Push Ups and stuff

Then as Summer was approaching this year I said I really need to gain some muscle mass to look better at the beach and get some useful strength out of it too. I am 5'10 was 165lbs now 175lbs.

But after sticking to this 5x5 routine all Summer long I don't feel like I have gotten that much bigger, I mean Omega has trained that kid and in like 12 weeks he got night and day larger, where for me in three months I look slightly bigger but not that much and it pisses me off all this hard work seems to be not working ??

I am just looking to have arms that are t-shirt bursting, and a chest and shoulders that look pumped up, an not some skinny guy, or for sure not a fat dude either.

I think the best body type is of a Rugby player, they are very well thick built, not huge but not skinny

 

[SirDingo]

So lets say I do eat more which I have been doing all Summer and gained 10-12lbs, but still not getting muscles that much bigger. It seems to me the 5x5 maybe is not the correct routine to get bulked up muscles busting out of my shirt ??

I mean right now I am 5'10 175lbs, look at some pro athletes that weigh the same, in the NFL allot of wide receivers that weigh less than 185lbs and are 6' tall and have huge/ripped arms

My point and question is do I have to keep eating to 200lbs before I get the arms I want ?? That doesn't sound right to me, like I said allot of men weigh less than 200lbs and have perfect huge bulging arms, chest, and shoulders. What are they doing that I am not ??

Thanks for the advice and help to get me going the right direction

 

[SirDingo]

Thanks so my PUSH and PULL will look like this, what is everyone's opinion on the exercises plus sets/reps ?? So every week I have been adding just a little bit of weight like 2.5-5lbs on to the bar and keeping a log of each week's

DAY 2 � PUSH

- Barbell Flat Bench Press 5x5
- Military Barbell Press 5x5
- Dumbbell Incline Press 4x8
- Weighted Dips 3x8

It takes my approx 45-60 minutes to each day

DAY 1 � PULL

- Deadlifts 5x5
- Barbell Rows, 6x5
- Dumbbell Rows, 6x5
- Chin Ups 3x8
- Hammer Curls 3x8