The debate is over size does NOT=strength!!!!

[Debaser]

You're comparing two different people. As an INDIVIDUAL gets stronger, he tends to get bigger than he was. Add 50 pounds to your raw bench (using the same lifting technique) and you most likely will notice bigger muscles. There are a few exceptions out there, but the vast majority of people get bigger as they get stronger.

That's correct. While the correlation isn't exact, there is definitately something there. A better way to phrase it would be strength gains = size gains, as opposed to strength=size. Again this is not 100% accurate, but it's a good general rule. Since you are continuing to increase the load on your muscles, they will adapt and grow bigger (assuming diet/recovery etc. is in order)

 

[spatts]

 

[Advaik]

Is the horse dead yet? Great! Let's beat it some more!

 

[Mike_Rojas]

It ain't dead 'cause there's only one page

 

[blinddeafmute]

Nuff said.

Now that is some funny shit!

 

[coolcolj]

It all depends on how you train

 

[vinylgroover]

You would be amazed at the number of people on the boards that lift purely for cosemetics and could care less about strength/functionality. These are the same ones that spend hours debating whether chicks dig the Arnold look or the Zane look. Read some of the ridiculousness on th anabolic board sometime. Shit like: "I want that to look like a men's health model, do you think 2 grams of test, 800 mg of deca,150 mg of tren ed, 10iu's of growth and 20 iu's of slin ed is enough to get me there? BTW I am 5'6'' 135 lbs with 18% bf

What does that have to do with the thread topic.

There are alot of people that are introduced to weights because they are overweight/obese and they wish to transform their look.....lift their self confidence and self esteem. Does that make their goal of wanting to look good any less worthwhile than your's which is to lift a personal best?

 

[Bulldog_10]

The sole factor determining muscle strength = cross sectional area.

So basically...yes, size does = strength. But body size doesn't mean shit...just the muscle.

 

[casualbb]

The sole factor determining muscle strength = cross sectional area.

That is quite untrue. All area determines is the rough amount of muscle available to be recruited by the nervous system. By specifically training the nervous system strength can be increased without much accompanying size.

-casual

 

[Bulldog_10]

That is quite untrue. All area determines is the rough amount of muscle available to be recruited by the nervous system. By specifically training the nervous system strength can be increased without much accompanying size.

-casual

Yes, you're right...but I'm talking maximum strength of any given muscle. I'm assuming all motor groups are stimulated...I should have mentioned that.