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tate's 9 wk basic (beginner questions aplenty)

jesus 2

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i am planning on starting tate's 9wk basic training program as soon as i get back to school (within a week to two)! it's time for jesus 2 to pack on some massive strength gains in order to reach some lofty goals by the end of this next semester (350 bench, 405 squat, 475 deadlift, all raw). of course, i do have some beginner questions and hopefully i didn't miss them in the readings somewhere. i'm just going down the program from the beginning to end and asking questions about topics as i see them. thanks for any and all help! :)

1. the first me squat lift is the goodmorning. though i am pretty much brand new to goodmornings, i know form variations are numerous. what are some thoughts on the best form variation for just starting out?

2. glute-ham raises...these will be hard not only because i've never done them before, but also because finding a suitable apparatus to perform these will be sort of difficult. do any of you have any ideas for the best way to setup for these using standard gym equipment? i think the best idea i came up with was a weighted barbell using smaller diameter plates (25's), but i would most likely have to use more 25's than would be fair for me to steal from others since my school gym doesn't have too many plates in general....

3. i cannot, for the life of me, figure out any way to perform reverse hypers in my school gym. would regular hypers be a reasonable substitute?

4. for secondary exercises where multiple sets of the same reps are performed (e.g. 6x10), what type of loading would best be used? i can think of three main possibilities: choose a weight you could perform all sets for the required reps; choose a weight that you wouldn't be able to complete all sets for desired reps initially, and you would increase the weight when you could complete all sets and reps; and lastly use a pyramid progression increasing weight each set until you reach the desired rep max.

5. would benching off of pins in a rack be a reasonable substitute for the board press?

6. i have not seen anything discussed on tempo for given exercises. on me lifts, how important are eccentrics? for the secondary assistance work (multiple sets of same rep range) i have no idea what sort of a tempo should be used.

7. the one arm press is a shoulder press, right? would it best be performed alternating arms, or doing one side then the other?

8. what would be the best way to perform one-legged squats for this program?

9. not much is said about rest intervals. i believe 4-5 min would be best for me lifts and that de lifts have specific rest intervals. what would be reasonable rest intervals for the assistance work be?

10. i will be brand new to box squats. would it be best to spend a couple weeks to work on form before beginning the program? this would also allow a chance to establish a 1rm in order to find the appropriate weight to be used for de squats.


that is all i have for now. but if i have any more thoughts, comments, or questions, I'LL BE BACK! :)

once again, thanks for your help!


j2da2
 
jesus 2 said:
3. i cannot, for the life of me, figure out any way to perform reverse hypers in my school gym. would regular hypers be a reasonable substitute?
Lay a 2x12 over the safety bars in the power rack. Do them on that.

5. would benching off of pins in a rack be a reasonable substitute for the board press?
There is a lot of difference. With boards, you get the weight transfer, and you still have to balance the bar and such. Why not just make some boards?

10. i will be brand new to box squats. would it be best to spend a couple weeks to work on form before beginning the program? this would also allow a chance to establish a 1rm in order to find the appropriate weight to be used for de squats.
Do you know your regular squat max? Just use that, if you know it. If you are worried about form, just add in some light sets of 10 or so on ME day (after the ME exercise) for the 1st couple weeks.
 
1. shoulder width.
2 and 3. substitute pull throughs ( you can also do GH off the floor with some pads , but it aint the same).
4. Ramp up your weights, don't pyramid .
5. nope. boards are cheap and easy. you can always stuff em under your shirt if you don't have help to hold em.
6. if tempo = time under tension try about 4-8 seconds for ME stuff in the 1-3 reps range and 20-60 seconds for hypertrophy ( BB ) type stuff in the 8-15 rep range (from Mel Siffs chart )
7. depends in what context your refering to the press , i would alternate , but i know people who don't .
8. free weight with the bar on your shoulders is my favorite ( i use the 14" cambered bar ) , but i rarely do them
9. 2 minutes or so.
10. start with a weight that you can handle and a box thats high enough that you don't fall at the bottom of your ROM.
 
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