Stop Recommending Testosterone To Newbies!

[needtogetaas]

Hearing what you want to hear isn't evidence! LOL!

And thanks for the spelling correction. I must have had "aspirating" on my mind. : )

My mistake -- I think it's needto who has apnea.

I be rubbing of on you

 

[UA_Iron]

Test above all else. Nelson has failed to prove otherwise.

 

[RADAR]

Yes. I know this is an unpopular stance but I maintain that a test only cycle is the WORST thing someone can do for a first cycle.

The reason is that test is what our body makes. It doesn't ake Primo or tren or deca. Give it test and it;'ll make less. People thinkother compounds are more suppressive. NOTHING is more suppressive than test! There are , however, things that will kill libido.

Tren and Deca raise prolactin and progesterone. That's the killer. They don't shut down the HPTA more than test.

And even dumber is when people suggest using test along with these compounds as some sort of responsible remedy. IT"S JUST ANOTHER SUPPRESSIVE COMPOUND!!! It will mask the problems but it still supresses.

I still think the best first cycle is a short low dose one -- to test the waters. I rmember when doing a couple of dbol was a major thrill. And we got results! Today, that isn;t enough , even if you're 150 pounds and haven't begun to tap your full potential.

Start slow. Use Primo or var or a little dbol. You can always add more and more test as you go along.

Thank you Nelson, thank you- it's what i have been preaching all along ,it seems no one listens!
everyone wants a quick fix----well rome wasn't built in a day, and if your diet & training isn't in check ...well.....just take the next train outta here!


RADAR

 

[RADAR]

dbol was used by itself so many times in the old school days, and those guys were Jizzacked!

People saying oral onlys suck is lame.

I Am one of those guys, i met Dave Draper Mr Universe and his favorite cycle back then was Dbol, and Arnold ate those things for breakfast.
We didn't have internet back then so we went with what everyone else was doing.

RADAR

 

[Nelson Montana]

Test above all else. Nelson has failed to prove otherwise.

No one has proved anything. It's an intellectual argument and all anyone can do is present a logical point. If you have one to add, please do so.

 

[HAYEZ]

What i dont understand is this being a steroid board there is so much negativety about cycleing...
Why most people even are here i have no clue

 

[Nelson Montana]

What i dont understand is this being a steroid board there is so much negativety about cycleing...
Why most people even are here i have no clue

 

[the_alcatraz]

What i dont understand is this being a steroid board there is so much negativety about cycleing...
Why most people even are here i have no clue

lol...

 

[access]

Can't believe I missed this thread..very interesting read.

 

[galaxy]

Im gonna say 99% of the time a test only cycle is the only option for many newbies because its the easiest thing for them to get at the gym. I cant count the times someone has come to me and told me they were doing a 10 week cycle of test enanthate at 200mgs a week. Gee, bottle is 10 cc's and dose is 200mgs/cc. Wonder where they got the idea to do that?

Its just the easiest thing for them to do and there probably pretty overwhelmed with taking the plunge, with all the media makes it out to be.

Best thing is to just offer some decent advice.

I saw a guy get torn up and preached too a week or so ago because he had some gyno flaring up. Rather than help the guy with what to do, members spent more time ripping him up for not having taken letrozole and all these other compounds that no one here would have ever thought to do themselves unless they had already spent a year on the boards.

I can hear what Hayez is saying all the way.

I kinda miss the days of UltraGainz posting up all those sick twisted cycles. Not that it was a better time. More responsible now, but sometimes the point gets missed. Help members. Dont preach to them.