Stop Recommending Testosterone To Newbies!

[Barch]

I remember seeing that there was some relation with high testerone and sleep apnea, as well. I'm convinced that many people who "mysteriously", or unexpectedly die in their sleep actually have sleep apnea.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

IMO - testosterone is the safest and most versatile drug. It provides the full gamut of hormonal activity, and also happens to be one of the most efficient drugs for producing muscle and strength gains.

I would not place higher value on the level of suppression, which is very consistently reversible and likely little different between analogs in the grande scheme of things, than I would on cholesterol interference (which testosterone appears to be the mildest), libido (which testosterone supports), or hepatic strain (testosterone has none).

I can never recommend anyone take steroids, but if I had one bit of advice to anyone choosing to do so, it would be to look at testosterone first, last, and exclusively if you can.

 

[the_alcatraz]

IMO - testosterone is the safest and most versatile drug. It provides the full gamut of hormonal activity, and also happens to be one of the most efficient drugs for producing muscle and strength gains.

I would not place higher value on the level of suppression, which is very consistently reversible and likely little different between analogs in the grande scheme of things, than I would on cholesterol interference (which testosterone appears to be the mildest), libido (which testosterone supports), or hepatic strain (testosterone has none).

I can never recommend anyone take steroids, but if I had one bit of advice to anyone choosing to do so, it would be to look at testosterone first, last, and exclusively if you can.

Bill, you are the MAN.

That's what I've been saying since the start of this thread.

Test IS the best recommendation for a first cycle.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Bill, you are the MAN.

That's what I've been saying since the start of this thread.

Test IS the best recommendation for a first cycle.

Hearing what you want to hear isn't evidence! LOL!

And thanks for the spelling correction. I must have had "aspirating" on my mind. : )

My mistake -- I think it's needto who has apnea.

 

[miplank]

. The only position I can really lay in is on my back. I try to move to my side, but my shoulder(s) hurt and arm(s) fall asleep from the weight on them).

Kind of off topic, but have you tried a new bed? I had that same problem for years, and finally said fuck it and went and bought a sleep number bed, and I can FINALLY sleep on my side without it feeling like my arm is dead, and my collar bone is going to snap.

 

[ceo]

Kind of off topic, but have you tried a new bed? I had that same problem for years, and finally said fuck it and went and bought a sleep number bed, and I can FINALLY sleep on my side without it feeling like my arm is dead, and my collar bone is going to snap.

My wife spent like $1700 on this mattress a year ago (California King). It is the most comfortable bed I've slept on. I can lay on my side (for some reason I always prefer the left side), but not for too long. I will become uncomfortable due to the weight of my body crushing my shoulder and arm.

I've thought about the 100% memory foam mattresses (probably $4000+ for my size bed), but I heard they make you sweat. I have one of the memory foam pillows, but it makes my head/neck sweat unless the room is pretty cool and the ceiling fan is going (oh the wife loves that too - let me tell ya). I can only imagine what the effect would be like over my whole body.

 

[miplank]

My wife spent like $1700 on this mattress a year ago (California King). It is the most comfortable bed I've slept on. I can lay on my side (for some reason I always prefer the left side), but not for too long. I will become uncomfortable due to the weight of my body crushing my shoulder and arm.

I've thought about the 100% memory foam mattresses (probably $4000+ for my size bed), but I heard they make you sweat. I have one of the memory foam pillows, but it makes my head/neck sweat unless the room is pretty cool and the ceiling fan is going (oh the wife loves that too - let me tell ya). I can only imagine what the effect would be like over my whole body.

Yeah...the memory foam beds hold/generate heat like a mofo. Which is why I opted for the Sleep Number Bed. It was well worth the money spent. I can sleep on my side all night and never have to switch. They're pretty expensive, but well worth it. I wake up more refreshed, blah blah blah same shit you hear on the commercials, but its true.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hearing what you want to hear isn't evidence! LOL!

And thanks for the spelling correction. I must have had "aspirating" on my mind. : )

My mistake -- I think it's needto who has apnea.

haha! no worries bro

 

[halfcenturian]

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"There is no softer pillow ..... then a clear conscience."

Maybe there are some unresolved issues that need tending to.

 

[the_alcatraz]

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"There is no softer pillow ..... then a clear conscience."

Maybe there are some unresolved issues that need tending to.

wise words...