squats but no soreness in quads

[edgecrusher]

Squats do not directly target your quads. Your hamstrings and glutes are your prime movers in the exercise.

 

[jerkbox]

the issue really has nothing to do with going to failure. you can feel sore with 5x5 or DC... although with DC training, quite the opposite of what you said cauallbb is true....you recover much quicker, affording you the opportunity to do legs twice in 8 days....



bgstve, you may not be feeling it in your quads depending on your form- leg position, toe direction etc....not that you are doing it wrong.....if you want to hit the quads more, try a narrower stance, toes more towards straight ahead.

 

[bigstve12]

thanx jerkbox, my stance is a little wide, not powerlifter wide though. ill give it a try this week

 

[edgecrusher]

bgstve, you may not be feeling it in your quads depending on your form- leg position, toe direction etc....not that you are doing it wrong.....if you want to hit the quads more, try a narrower stance, toes more towards straight ahead. [/B][/QUOTE]

And elevate the heals. That will shift the emphasis from the hip extensors to the quads.

 

[Shark01]

Going to failure doesn't do anything! There isn't something magical about muscle failure that adds extra growth when you hit it. You don't get more growth. You just get tired, and it forces you to wait longer before lifting again....THAT'S IT.

-casualbb

Damn, I just don't get how some people think. Going to failure sends the loudest clearest signal to your body that more muscle is needed. Get tired?.........fu*&^ing A I get tired, I feel like total crap afterwards.......the way you are suppossed to after putting everything you have into a workout.

And about not getting sore.......I've always heard that soreness is a sign that you have worked hard enough to grow, and if you aren't sore you don't know whether you are stimulating growth or not. Yes, and your body adapts to avoid the pain.......and then it's time to change exercises. Perpetual soreness.......perpetual growth .

 

[Baoh]

Thats because the 5 x 5 program does not go to failure. The DC program will ensure that you hit each and every type of muscle fiber. Here is a typical squat routine:

3 warmups @ 3 sets x 10,5,3

then building:

1 set @ 4-8 hard and heavy reps, then 1 set @ 20 reps until you barf and faint.

Although many say soreness is not an indicator of growth, I use it a a gauge to tell me whether or not I had an intense workout. Needless to say, on this type of program I can barely move the next day. Its all about high intensity, and I think the 5 x 5 program fails to test your absolute true strength. . .it likes to stop you at a fixed rep. . .why go for 5 when you can really get 7 or 8?

Anyway, soreness is based on lactic acid buildup and microtears in the muscle.

The short of it: No.

 

[Baoh]

Think about the size of your legs and what you just said.

You were never a beginner? Your command is both ignorant and irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[Baoh]

Damn, I just don't get how some people think. Going to failure sends the loudest clearest signal to your body that more muscle is needed. Get tired?.........fu*&^ing A I get tired, I feel like total crap afterwards.......the way you are suppossed to after putting everything you have into a workout.

And about not getting sore.......I've always heard that soreness is a sign that you have worked hard enough to grow, and if you aren't sore you don't know whether you are stimulating growth or not. Yes, and your body adapts to avoid the pain.......and then it's time to change exercises. Perpetual soreness.......perpetual growth .

Put down the muscle rag and stop listening to gym lore.

 

[Shark01]

Put down the muscle rag and stop listening to gym lore.

Actually, if I read the mags and listened to the lazy know-it-alls in the gym, I'd be doing 20 sub-maximal sets per bodypart but not breaking a sweat........I'd rather just do what works best, busting my ass on every set and hoping I feel so damn sore the next day I can hadly move.

 

[casualbb]

You were never a beginner? Your command is both ignorant and irrelevant to the discussion.

Thank you, Baoh.

Anyway, the research is out there in enormous piles in support of sub-failure training. I've posted some in the past but people don't seem to care. So if anyone wants it, lemme know.

-casualbb