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So I'm thinking about starting a CKD, i need some meal ideas.

He looks amazing. We'll have some pics in August - I'm sure he'll share.

She's too kind.

Yeah reformata, that is the book i got last year and used then. I did that for a few months last year and had good results.

The things about it that don't work for me:

1. 2 day refeed
2. moderate fat on refeed days

So basically the CKD we did here is the same as the Anabolic Diet with the exception of the refeed being a little more mathematical. The number of carbs to take in is in proportion to your LBM. Once this limit is reached, the refeed needs to stop. For me that's about 850 to 1000 grams of carbs. I can easily hit this in 24 hours.

Second, fat is kept to a bare minimum and carbs are high GI. This makes digestion as fast as possible to kickstart metabolism and increase the speed of glycogen uptake. In other words your muscles get fuller faster. Fat would get in the way by slowing down digestion.
 
im starting to think a 2 day refeed might be too much for me as well, especially if im trying to lose this last bit of fat. plus, i feel like a bag of shit after 2 days. i really need to be stricter. ive done ok keeping the fat low, but i carb up for too long i think.

are you guys doing alot of cardio? i havent for the past 3 weeks or so, ive just done upper body monday, lower body tuesday, and full body friday. all my workouts have been HARD and HEAVY....so im wondering, should i put the cardio back in? theres so much speculation on whether or not its needed...
 
im starting to think a 2 day refeed might be too much for me as well, especially if im trying to lose this last bit of fat. plus, i feel like a bag of shit after 2 days. i really need to be stricter. ive done ok keeping the fat low, but i carb up for too long i think.

are you guys doing alot of cardio? i havent for the past 3 weeks or so, ive just done upper body monday, lower body tuesday, and full body friday. all my workouts have been HARD and HEAVY....so im wondering, should i put the cardio back in? theres so much speculation on whether or not its needed...

I'd say definitely put the cardio back in and cut the refeed to 24 hours. For cardio just add some easy steady state treadmill walking pre-breakfast with a heartrate at about 130. It doesn't have to be much. 3 or 4 days a week. Just kill some extra calories while you are in ketosis.
 
well, ive started to do it in another way now.

still sticking whit the right protein and fat ranges, a few grams more of fat and maybe eating 30-50 carbs a day,BUT im doing morningcardio 50-70 mins 5-6 days a week.

ive just started to be so tired of weighting my sallad and stuff.

and a few spoons of peanutbutter is sooo good.
Onebreath, can i still get into ketosis doing it that way?
 
well, ive started to do it in another way now.

still sticking whit the right protein and fat ranges, a few grams more of fat and maybe eating 30-50 carbs a day,BUT im doing morningcardio 50-70 mins 5-6 days a week.

ive just started to be so tired of weighting my sallad and stuff.

and a few spoons of peanutbutter is sooo good.
Onebreath, can i still get into ketosis doing it that way?

Every body is different. The only way to know for sure is to get ketosticks and test yourself. 50 grams is definitely pushing it.
 
good call! i never thought of that.

well, my carb up this time went much better. i started at 6 on friday, and stopped about 9 on saturday. i ate the following things:

krusteaz fat free fudge brownies with low fat vanilla raspberry sorbet (SO EFFING GOOD!)
mac n cheese made with fat free milk and no butter
chinese food (is this very fatty? i didnt eat anything deep fried, just rice and spicy chicken, etc)
cookie crisp with fat free milk
sushi rolls (1 g fat per roll, i only had a few)
waffles with the tiniest bit of butter (probably a tsp total) and gallons of powdered sugar
thats about it.

my depletion workout prior to this: well, it was 90 degrees out, and our gym doesnt have air conditioning. so after 10 reps of whatever, i already want to puke. my plan was to just go around the gym 3 times, hit every machine, and do a set of dead lifts in between each loop. well, i did the first loop, pretty balls out, and then my first set of dead lifts (85 lbs), and immedeatley had to lay down on a bench and try not to projectile vomit. ugh. so i took it easy for a few minutes, and then started my second loop. when i got to the dead lifts....i just couldnt do it. i started the 3rd loop, and got a little over halfway thru (didnt do any leg or ab machines on the 3rd time thru). i was WASTED. i felt sick, shaky, and completely exhausted. so im hoping that means i was depleted, even tho i did less than my usual depletion workout...the one before that i did 3x around, plus 3x10 hanging negs and 3 sets of walking lunges with dumbells. hmm.

anyhoo, i think im finally starting to see results. my monthy intruder is gone, so on friday before the carb up, i could really determine what was happening. so i decided to weigh. in the afternoon, which i usually dont condone.

135 LBS!!! YES! i was shocked. i thought since it was the afternoon, i was at the tail end of my period, and i was gaining so much muscle, that i would be like 145. HOLY LORD. i was pumped.

so i continue with the cycling. i do feel much better about the 24 hour carb up tho. i hardly ate anything sunday (yesterday) so as to get back into ketosis faster. judging by my poor husbands reaction to my breath this morning, id say im there.

:)

something i wasnt so excited about: yesterday my family and i did some boating on the lake, to which i wore a bikini. thinking i was pretty cute and small, still tooting my own horn about 135 lbs, i caught sight of myself in a mirror on one of the boats. i looked terrible. please tell me this is just a result of bloating from the carb up the day before...
 
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Damn that workout was hardcore. I would avoid the chinese. Most of their stuff is pretty fatty but to be honest you just never know what's in there. The rest of your foods look perfect. You even got rid of the fat from the mac and cheese.

Congrats on the weight. That's got to feel good.
 
ok, so the workout is ok? i guess if your depleted, your depleted, doesnt matter how many times you went around :) i dont like to puke. scott is always yakkin in the gym. hes hard core.
 
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