sleep aids

[JMD]

Not sure but did anyone mention Seroquel. I took it for the first time a few weeks ago and it knocked me on my ass for about 10 hours straight. I have taken Ambein in the past but this stuff is way better.

 

[kingc_79]

i have a shitload of seroquel . that shit knocked me the fuck out and i didnt want to wake up....i ended up givin most of it away. tranquilizers suck...im usually pretty immune to sleepin pills but these killed me.

 

[deltreefitness]

i have a shitload of seroquel . that shit knocked me the fuck out and i didnt want to wake up....i ended up givin most of it away. tranquilizers suck...im usually pretty immune to sleepin pills but these killed me.

That's because while they'll make you tired it's shitty sleep.

 

[*MissFit*]

Sereoqel works great but it also is good at promoting weight gain.. I got my ass off at that so fast

 

[*MissFit*]

Speaking from someone who used to go out frequently the G here is Canadan is very dirty. They use house hold cleaners, whatever they can find as filler.

This is the exact ignorance I'm speaking of. Dangerous? GHB has no toxicity to the human body. It is safer than alcohol and even Tylenol.

"We do not need to have “GHB madness” become a permanent part of our culture as law. We do not need to disenfranchise patients, impair the practice of medicine, and drive citizens to obtain their food supplements in the drug underground." -Dr. Ward Dean

It has no physical addiction effects. There is no physical withdrawl. I've been on practically every SSRI, SNRI, and MAOI. And many benzos. Now, they have some very real physcial widthdrawl.

I have been using it (GHB) for years, multiple times, daily. I can (and do) stop for short or extended periods of time, at any time.

If there is any possibility addiction it is simply pyschological. The same people that would become addicted to it would probably be addicted to many other things. It would be better to be addicted to something non-toxic (which GHB is - even at high doses). There are no deaths directly related to GHB and no long-term negative effects. If you "over-dose" you sleep - really well. Then you wake up. Simple as that. It is when adding CNS depressants, or pre-exsisting conditions/complications is when it may cause a problem. I would much rather take something natural and non-toxic like GHB than any current anti-convulsant/ benzo daily for my condition.

As has been emphasized, the overall safety of GHB is well-established, and no deaths attributable to GHB have been reported over the thirty year period that this compound has been in use [Vickers, 1969; Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. Unlike a large proportion of other drugs including alcohol and even Tylenol, GHB has no toxic effects on the liver, kidney or other organs [Vickers, 1969; Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. One program of sleep therapy using six to eight grams daily for a period of eight to ten days produced no side effects. Vickers [1969] even reports that doses as high as twenty to thirty grams per twenty-four hour period have been used for several days without negative consequences In the Canadian studies of narcolepsy mentioned earlier, the nightly use of two to six teaspoons (one teaspoon equaling roughly 2.5 grams) for several years resulted in no reports of long-term adverse effects, or problems with issues of addiction or dependence. In one of these studies, one patient inadvertently ingested fifteen teaspoons without adverse consequence “other than deep sedation and headache the next day” [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. And in France, sub-anesthetic oral doses were used by “a large number of patients for about six years” without untoward effect [Laborit, 1972].

 

[MikeMartial]

Not sure but did anyone mention Seroquel. I took it for the first time a few weeks ago and it knocked me on my ass for about 10 hours straight. I have taken Ambein in the past but this stuff is way better.

Seroquel is indicated for bipolar disorder and schizophernia; a side effect of most dibenzothiazepine derivatives is tiredness. Since insomnia isn't a primary indication, I doubt many physicians would prescribe it soley for that.

A few posts here perked my interest in GHB, and I found a good medical-orineted paper on it here. Xyrem sounds like a great idea---convincing my doc I actually have narcolepsy would be an Oscar-winning performance. I think GHB has great potential, but it also seems to have some bad side effects, regardless if it's clean or not.

To date, 7.5mg of Imovane knocks me out cold

 

[*MissFit*]

Seroquel is indicated for bipolar disorder and ....


To date, 7.5mg of Imovane knocks me out cold

I wish Imovane 7.5 would knock me out.. for now i stay sleepless

 

[Devastation]

lots of good info here. i am restless at night most of the time

 

[deltreefitness]

Speaking from someone who used to go out frequently the G here is Canadan is very dirty. They use house hold cleaners, whatever they can find as filler.

OK you're talking about some unlabeled bottle of liquid from an unknown source. It's also probably not accurately or consistancy dosed/measured. For all you know that could be almost anything. It may have not been GHB or GBL. At least not pure. This is a big problem with many other substances. Though your choice but not nessasarily your fault. This ia a product of prohibition.

I used to make my own GHB. I never used any household chemicals either. I did use some ethanol. I now have a prescription for GHB so it's now "pharmacuetical grade".

Here's why GHB is better for GHB than any of the above mentioned drugs.

GHB has been called “almost an ideal sleep inducing substance” [Smart Drugs II, p. 245]. Small doses produce relaxation, tranquility and drowsiness which make it extremely easy to fall asleep naturally. Higher doses increase the drowsiness effect and decrease the time it takes to fall asleep. A sufficiently large dose of GHB will induce sudden sleep within five to ten minutes [Laborit, 1964]. Many other hypnotics interfere with various stages of the sleep cycle thus preventing the body from achieving a complete and balanced session of rest and recuperation. The most remarkable facet of GHB-induced sleep is its physiological resemblance to normal sleep. For instance, GHB sleep is characterized by increased levels of carbon dioxide in the arteries, as in normal sleep [Vickers, 1969]. During normal and GHB sleep, the CNS continues to be responsive to “noxious stimuli” (pain and other irritations), a factor which sets limits on GHB’s uses in anesthesia [Vickers, 1969]. GHB facilitates both REM (rapid eye movement) sleep, and “slow-wave” (non-REM) sleep, the stage of sleep featuring increased release of growth hormone [Laborit, 1972]. And unlike the unconsciousness induced by other anesthetics, that triggered by GHB does not feature a systemic decrease in oxygen consumption [Laborit, 1964].

The primary disadvantage to GHB’s use as a sleep aid is it’s short-term influence — about three hours. During GHB’s influence, sleep is deeper and more restful, but after the GHB has worn off, people have a tendency to wake up. The higher the dose, the greater is this tendency. Some have called this pattern the “dawn effect” and have speculated that it is related to the release of stored-up dopamine. Some people minimize this effect by taking minimal doses of GHB. Others take advantage of this effect by getting a couple of hours of work done in the middle of the night. Still others choose to take a second dose of GHB to sleep for another three hours.

So it's biggest disadvantage is it's half-life. This is only a temporary annoyance. There is a formulation in the works to extend it's duration.

P.S.

@anyone - Please do not PM for a source. I do not condone manufacturing or selling of anything illegal.

 

[*MissFit*]

Wish 7.5mg of imovane knocked me cold.. Nothing works