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what is Deleterious? I use dit for 4 years. Now I have uncontrolled anxiety. Yes I used it 6 times a day, but the side effects are not good. If I could take it back I would. But now I can't, I just live day by day wishing I had not overdon GHB. A good drug but bad. Hallucinations, sleep deprivation and paranoia is not a good side effect of muscle gain.
 
Morb said:
i have taken it for almost 2 years with no deleterious effects and it has done wonders for my insomnia, i recently had a spiral ct w/tracer and no probs, i feel good the next day, i know a group of people that have taken it almost as long with no problems, ghb is a nutrient, it is found in food and in your body naturally, it used to be sold for just a few bucks otc til all the reefer madness buzz came out which was essentially the gov helping pharma cos have a monopoly and make tons of cash, shocker, my question is were you taking pharmaceutical grade (you can get a prescription in cali) or mixing it up yourself? what other drugs were you taking with it? all these reported "deaths and seizures" are just the same kind of bs that goes with marijuana, like 40,000 people a year die from it, they dont mention that they were all dead drunk and crashing into fast moving vehicles, ghb especially doesnt go well with alcohol, i can find studies and you can find studies supporting anything you want, i used weed for over 10 years with no problems before i gave it up and i have used ghb for over 2 with none, ive never taken more than 3.5g and my reg dose is 3.125g


More power to you......enjoy!

Here's a link for all those poor souls that shared your point of view.

CLICK ON "Tragedies"

www.projectghb.org

Theres always room for one more!
 
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MissTess said:
I take a prescription anti-depressant that also serves as a sleeping pill called Trazadone (generic). I take a very low dose, 25 mg. at night. It's non-addictive and also lifts my spirits. Good luck.


Trazadone rocks and puts me into a deep sleep, I've taken many others, including dangerous benzo's and trazadone is the best!
 
Morb said:
Iis found in food and in your body naturally, it used to be sold for just a few bucks otc

True. GHB is the best, safest, cleanest sleep-aid (among it's other uses) there is. It's been used worldwide for many indications. One of the top five is insomnia. You can get a prescription for it in the US. It's current indications are for narcolepsy and cataplexy but most prescriptions are for off-label use. The next FDA approval will most likely be for insomnia. I have been using it for years. For real, objective information on GHB check out writings by Dr. Ward Dean and CERI.

http://www.warddeanmd.com/ghb.htm
http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml
 
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There are at least 15 INDs filed with the FDA for (GHB)
1) improving sleep patterns and maintaining daytime alertness in narcolepsy, (including isomnia)
2) reducing schizophrenic symptoms,
3) stabilizing Parkinson's disease,
4) reducing nocturnal myoclonus (painful leg cramps at night),
5) improving memory problems,
6) stimulating natural growth hormone release,
7) decreasing pain and improving sleep in fibromyalgia,
8) relieving symptoms in Huntington's chorea,
9) regulating muscle tone in dystonia musculorum deformans,
10) controlling tardive dyskinesia symptoms,
11) decreasing drug withdrawal symptoms (alcohol and opiates),
12) decreasing hyperactivity and learning disabilities in children,
13) inducing sedation and tranquilization,
14) relieving anxiety, and
15) lowering cholesterol.


The incredible dichotomy between GHB as a safe miracle nutrient (with extensive applications to a host of human maladies) and GHB as a lethal "designer drug" (used for date rape and other nefarious purposes) can hardly be more striking. This can hardly be an accident. It must be by design. But who's design?

Now because of this the FDA alone stands to make at least $15 BILLION from GHB regulation. Now the DEA will continually make bank on in "drug investigations" suposedly involving GHB. Don't forget the pharmacheutical companies and doctors. A suppliment that was once sold at health food stores now has the same government scheduling as herion. Because of this hysteria what I could have gotten for a couple dolars a month OTC I now have to pay over $700 a month! Not only that I am forced to continually see a specialist that I have to pay (out of pocket) to keep my prescription. Luckly my insurance covers most of the cost of the prescription (for now) but I'm now in jepordy of losing my health coverage. That's a pretty scary thought alone.

OK...So I went a little off-topic but I had to vent a bit. This propaganda has led to disgustingly distorted, inaccurate, depictions of a extremely safe and usefull nutrient. Prohibition has no positive end result for citizens. The only thing it protects is profit.
 
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MikeMartial said:
Good, informative posts, guys.

But that doesn't help much if you live in Canada, and it's near impossible to find.

You can get a prescription for GHB in the US. The brand name is Xyrem. Are you sure you can't in Canada?
 
GHB is dangerous.. why in the hell would anyone willingly take that.. i have seen what it does to people. Plus alot of the GHB out there isint pure
 
Prettylittlepest said:
GHB is dangerous.. why in the hell would anyone willingly take that.. i have seen what it does to people. Plus alot of the GHB out there isint pure

This is the exact ignorance I'm speaking of. Dangerous? GHB has no toxicity to the human body. It is safer than alcohol and even Tylenol.

"We do not need to have “GHB madness” become a permanent part of our culture as law. We do not need to disenfranchise patients, impair the practice of medicine, and drive citizens to obtain their food supplements in the drug underground." -Dr. Ward Dean

It has no physical addiction effects. There is no physical withdrawl. I've been on practically every SSRI, SNRI, and MAOI. And many benzos. Now, they have some very real physcial widthdrawl.

I have been using it (GHB) for years, multiple times, daily. I can (and do) stop for short or extended periods of time, at any time.

If there is any possibility addiction it is simply pyschological. The same people that would become addicted to it would probably be addicted to many other things. It would be better to be addicted to something non-toxic (which GHB is - even at high doses). There are no deaths directly related to GHB and no long-term negative effects. If you "over-dose" you sleep - really well. Then you wake up. Simple as that. It is when adding CNS depressants, or pre-exsisting conditions/complications is when it may cause a problem. I would much rather take something natural and non-toxic like GHB than any current anti-convulsant/ benzo daily for my condition.

As has been emphasized, the overall safety of GHB is well-established, and no deaths attributable to GHB have been reported over the thirty year period that this compound has been in use [Vickers, 1969; Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. Unlike a large proportion of other drugs including alcohol and even Tylenol, GHB has no toxic effects on the liver, kidney or other organs [Vickers, 1969; Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. One program of sleep therapy using six to eight grams daily for a period of eight to ten days produced no side effects. Vickers [1969] even reports that doses as high as twenty to thirty grams per twenty-four hour period have been used for several days without negative consequences In the Canadian studies of narcolepsy mentioned earlier, the nightly use of two to six teaspoons (one teaspoon equaling roughly 2.5 grams) for several years resulted in no reports of long-term adverse effects, or problems with issues of addiction or dependence. In one of these studies, one patient inadvertently ingested fifteen teaspoons without adverse consequence “other than deep sedation and headache the next day” [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. And in France, sub-anesthetic oral doses were used by “a large number of patients for about six years” without untoward effect [Laborit, 1972].
 
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