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Raw benchpressers

Glen Chabot was the cleanest bencher. BUt i think he is done now. He tore his pec last week or so. From what i heard he is said his return is unlikely. Of course until you hear it from himself i wouldnt count anyone out.
 
powerlifterjay said:
Glen Chabot was the cleanest bencher. BUt i think he is done now. He tore his pec last week or so. From what i heard he is said his return is unlikely. Of course until you hear it from himself i wouldnt count anyone out.

where did you hear this?!?! he said in powermag that he was gana take a few weeks off then start training again for next years arnold.
 
heavywear said:
I'll have to give big glen a call and get the scoop. hopefully he hasnt torn again...:(

me too!

you really know him?!?!?!?!

i personaly am sickened by the whole idea of bench shirts, if you can't make the lift on your own power then you can't lift it!

and what is even worse is how many lifters arch so much they have to were freaking weight belts!!!!

this is why i really want to see glen destroy all these fake lifts
 
Tiervexx said:

i personaly am sickened by the whole idea of bench shirts, if you can't make the lift on your own power then you can't lift it!

and what is even worse is how many lifters arch so much they have to were freaking weight belts!!!!

this is why i really want to see glen destroy all these fake lifts

Let me point something out to you........

The lifters that arch alot and use shirts are working within the rules.........therefore their lifts are not fake lifts. Everybody plays by the same rules so it is a level playing field.

If you want to rewrite the rule book, go and form your own federation and see how many people want to join.........

Oh and for the record I lift raw and my arch isn't big.
 
Imnotdutch said:
The lifters that arch alot and use shirts are working within the rules.........therefore their lifts are not fake lifts. Everybody plays by the same rules so it is a level playing field.

i am well aware of the fact that they are lifting within the rules. but think about it. Why do you think they decided that bench press is one of the core lifts? because it tests upper body strength. if you don't arch your back and don't use a shirt then you are forced to rely on your OWN brute strength. i know that i might have gone a little to far when i said the the lifts were fake but i just don't understand how anyone could get any satisfaction out of a bench that you can only do with the help of equipment and your legs.

but once again thats just IMO i'm not trying to tell you people how to lift i am just trying to make it clear why i personally would much rather look up to glen, and why i will not even consider using a shirt
 
many people have the same opinion as you, and i understand your point

but squatting is the same way. if you can take a wide stance in a squat or dead, it's not that different than an arch in benching, IMO
 
Ok now I see your point more clearly.

For what it is worth, I think that shirts that gave 100-200lb are a bit excessive :) However, I see no way of removing leg drive from the lift, safely. If you disagree so strongly, perhaps powerlifting isn't for you.

Tiervexx said:


i am well aware of the fact that they are lifting within the rules. but think about it. Why do you think they decided that bench press is one of the core lifts? because it tests upper body strength. if you don't arch your back and don't use a shirt then you are forced to rely on your OWN brute strength. i know that i might have gone a little to far when i said the the lifts were fake but i just don't understand how anyone could get any satisfaction out of a bench that you can only do with the help of equipment and your legs.

but once again thats just IMO i'm not trying to tell you people how to lift i am just trying to make it clear why i personally would much rather look up to glen, and why i will not even consider using a shirt
 
Tiervexx said:


i am well aware of the fact that they are lifting within the rules. but think about it. Why do you think they decided that bench press is one of the core lifts? because it tests upper body strength. if you don't arch your back and don't use a shirt then you are forced to rely on your OWN brute strength. i know that i might have gone a little to far when i said the the lifts were fake but i just don't understand how anyone could get any satisfaction out of a bench that you can only do with the help of equipment and your legs.

but once again thats just IMO i'm not trying to tell you people how to lift i am just trying to make it clear why i personally would much rather look up to glen, and why i will not even consider using a shirt

I would guess by your comments that your bench sucks and you have nor ever will compete. These are lifts in competition not in the gym trying to build your chest. In competition you take every advantage you can to win. They do have raw meets if you would like to do that. If you think that guys that wear shirts have no brute strength, well you are mistaken, most would still win the raw meets.. Chabot wears a shirt doesn't he? Yes, and if he lifted raw and had to pause he would not even be in the 700 club. Also you realize that a 800 pound bench has already fallen and the low 800's will fall within the next 6 months so Chabot better find a better shirt.
 
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