Quick Question about workouts

[DDizzy]

Now that basketball is starting i dont have as much time as i use to and am tired after practice, which is usually 2 hours long. I was wondering if i should alter upper and lower body days so im not as tired after a workout
So instead of doin a full body workour 3 times a week..alternating every other day upper then lower..What do you guys think?


I was considering this because i dont want to be so tired i cant practice or too tired to workout out.


Ty all!

 

[HERPECIN]

anything is better than a full body workout bro

for any sport

 

[Guinness5.0]

anything is better than a full body workout bro

for any sport

Ignorance at its finest

 

[bigdawginCO]

i would definitely go with some kind of split anyway for high quality muscle gain.

 

[Guinness5.0]

i would definitely go with some kind of split anyway for high quality muscle gain.

Based on what reasoning?

 

[swaptrex]

Based on what reasoning?

i assume you don't agree?

my input is that i am no expert, but muscles when trained in a split routine will get put to their full potential more than a full body workout. for example the body most likely becomes fatiqued after an hour, etc. which gives someone who is training, optimum time to train one, two, or even three muscles while still energized.

 

[Guinness5.0]

This response is far from comprehensive, but I'll hit some key points:

-I'm not saying a "split" is necessarily bad. I'm saying full body workouts are good (and of the cases I've seen are better than most splits).

-A full body workout, to many people, means doing the exact same routine every time. That's not always the case. Take the ever popular "madcow'd" Bill Starr 5x5. The monday/friday workouts are composed of different exercises than the weds. workout, but they both hit all the muscle groups.

-Unless the whole program is isolation exercises you're gonna have carryover to the rmuscle groups anyway. I.E. A "chest day" that includes any pressing will stress almost the entire upper body. Deads hit just about everything. You're fooling yourself if you think other parts aren't getting trained over the course of the split. So take the next logical step and train the whole body intentionally.

-A common argument for splits is that "muscles need 48 hours (or whatever) to rest so they can grow". THis argument is unfounded. It takes upwards of a month for a muscle to fully recover from training. You don't WANT full revovery - you want adaptation as a result of fatigue. Fatigue is systemic. The body needs to be fatigued for stimulus to occur, which is why workouts need to be progressively more challenging by increasing any/all of the three main variables in programming: intensity (% of 1rm), volume (# of working reps) and frequency (how often the work is performed).

The reason I got my panties in a bunch over this was Herpecin saying anything's better than full body workouts for sports. Well just about every S&C program I've seen uses full body training. He spouted BS as gospel, which irks me.

 

[bigdawginCO]

I've just had better results personally with using splits, although not everything works the same for everyone obviously. My thought was that in practice he'll be taxing the majority of his muscles in some form, so overworking things could be fairly easy doing full body. It depends on preparation before lifting.