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Prohormone cycle=Heart attack

gatesmarch

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Hey guys,

Me and my friend did a PH cycle last month. I'm 39, he's 42. I did Helladrol, and he did Trenzilla. He is a genetic freak who didn't need it anyway, but he had a high BF%. I mean, this dude is a natural monster. He's 5'8", hadn't worked out seriously in several years and was benching 350 for reps after a few weeks back into it. He only did a liver support. I did Cel cycle assist, forma stanzol, taurine, and pes erase. After a few weeks I started feeling light headed and found I had high BP, after week 4 my lethargy was just ridiculous so I went off cycle...but had AWESOME results for a first PH cycle.
Now him on the other hand. He just got back from the hospital. He had a small heart attack. High blood pressure, High bad cholesterol, and low good cholesterol. All the telltale signs of being on a PH. Scary stuff. His diet was on point, although he was taking a pre in combination with that fake "winny" shit which is just a crapload of caffeine. I really urged him to thoroughly read about PH's and the specific one he was taking. I even tried to find logs using this "Trenzilla" and couldn't find a single one. I tried to get him to do Helladrol, but he's hard headed and insisted using the Trenzilla because the cutie at the supplement store flirted him into buying it.:rolleyes:
Anyway lesson learned...make sure to monitor bp and RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH!!!
Although I was fine for the most part, I think I'll stay away from PH's, his episode was enough to scare me.
 
High bf = no business using a ph or steroid. Being overweight at his age, his lipids/bp probably were in horrible shape to begin with. Adding steroids to this formula is a disaster. So no, ph doesn't = heart attack... Bad health + any steroid = disaster waiting to happen

This is why we recommend lowering bf and making sure health is in order before using anything.
 
High bf = no business using a ph or steroid. Being overweight at his age, his lipids/bp probably were in horrible shape to begin with. Adding steroids to this formula is a disaster. So no, ph doesn't = heart attack... Bad health + any steroid = disaster waiting to happen

This is why we recommend lowering bf and making sure health is in order before using anything.

bingo!!! roids arent a replacement for hard work
 
I've been lifting 2 years before I did this (my first PH cycle). I did the core lifts for a year SL 5x5, then onto Bill Starr's 5x5, then I did a couple HST cycles before I started the PH cycle. I went to a 5 day split for the PH cycle and exploded...it was great. My bf wasn't ideal, maybe 16%. My blood pressure pre cycle was superb as well as my cholesterol. I hit it too hard though, my elbows are junk now...tendinitis on both (outer). After 3 weeks of no lifting at all they seem to be getting worse.
Yeah, my bud was foolish jumping right into the PH's.
 
High bf = no business using a ph or steroid. Being overweight at his age, his lipids/bp probably were in horrible shape to begin with. Adding steroids to this formula is a disaster. So no, ph doesn't = heart attack... Bad health + any steroid = disaster waiting to happen

This is why we recommend lowering bf and making sure health is in order before using anything.

^^This.
 
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