pre-workout nutrition

[Lifterforlife]

Well, assuming amino acids are the basis of protein I would disagree. Especially considering all protein sources are broken down to their constituent amino acids to be utilized......

You would be wrong. BCAA's are but 3 amino acids, leucine, isoleucine, and valine. There are The 13 non-essential amino acids are alanine, arginine, aspartic acid, cysteine, cystine, glutamic acid, glutamine, glycine, hydroxyproline, proline, serine, & tyrosine. You are thinking of the 8 that are the building blocks of protein.

You specifically state in your original post "you use BCAA's for your protein source".

Maybe you should do some research before you "disagree" quite so easily.

 

[javaguru]

Well, I can argue semantics all day. "I use bcaa's for my protein source" can just as easily mean " in lieu of", making my ststement 100% accurate. The funny thing is taht everyone reading the post knew exactly what I meant...so enough with the peanut gallery comments.

 

[Lifterforlife]

Well, I can argue semantics all day. "I use bcaa's for my protein source" can just as easily mean " in lieu of", making my ststement 100% accurate. The funny thing is taht everyone reading the post knew exactly what I meant...so enough with the peanut gallery comments.

Sorry bro, again you are wrong. Semantics or not, your statement is incorrect, and I don't believe "everyone" knew what you meant. For instance, the poster after you asked where can he buy some BCAA's.

We are here to help folks, not confuse them. The supplement companies do a good enough job of that. A 2 minute search with any search engine would have yeilded the results that I was right and your statement incorrect.

As far as peanut gallery, I beg to differ. I can and do offer valid scientific backup of my statements, how about you?

Not to be fecitious here, but how do folks get their "karma" on this site? Betting on it? I know it is easy, I lost 50 points Thursday on Dallas(dam field goal kickers!).

I for the life of me cannot understand why folks cannot simply admit wrong, and move on with the day.

 

[MikeMartial]

We are here to help folks, not confuse them. The supplement companies do a good enough job of that.

Yes, and thank god for knowledgable members here like yourself.

Not to be fecitious here, but how do folks get their "karma" on this site? Betting on it? I know it is easy, I lost 50 points Thursday on Dallas(dam field goal kickers!).

People can give each other "karma", as indicated at the bottom left on the post. Check your profile, and you'll see I gave some green for a previous post of yours. With time/# of posts/amount of karma you have, your "karmic power" will go up, and you'll be able to add more karma to others.

 

[Lifterforlife]

Thanks Mike.....nice thing to say. And thanks for the heads up on the K. Will have to start giving some out for good posts.

 

[ChefWide]

i like lifterforlifes approach very much and have been reading like crazy over the last days on protein windo PWO and i am indeed changing my thoughts on PWO nutrition in a big way, thanks LFL!

as far as preworkout nut, i am still in the realm of simple protein(ISO AGB is easy for me and no nausia or heart burn later on) and complex carb (30-60gms of maltodextrin has been the choice lately, and i think its working well) ... works well for me from experience thus far..

 

[javaguru]

Sorry bro, again you are wrong. Semantics or not, your statement is incorrect, and I don't believe "everyone" knew what you meant. For instance, the poster after you asked where can he buy some BCAA's.

We are here to help folks, not confuse them. The supplement companies do a good enough job of that. A 2 minute search with any search engine would have yeilded the results that I was right and your statement incorrect.

As far as peanut gallery, I beg to differ. I can and do offer valid scientific backup of my statements, how about you?

Not to be fecitious here, but how do folks get their "karma" on this site? Betting on it? I know it is easy, I lost 50 points Thursday on Dallas(dam field goal kickers!).

I for the life of me cannot understand why folks cannot simply admit wrong, and move on with the day.

When someone asks, "Where can I purchase X " you can't assume anything other than they were asking where to purchase product X. Otherwise, they would have asked, "What are BCAA's?" I'm Not trying to be a dick but it's a logical fallacy. I certainly admit I could have been more precise by simplying saying," I use bcaa's in my shake." I just really take issue when people try to play internet cowboy when everyone understands the point of the post. Also, for the record I use a "natural" BCAA peptide which contains all EAA's so it does qualify as a protein source but is sold as a BCAA supplement, it's theta aminos by protein factory if anyone is curious.

 

[Lifterforlife]

I certainly admit I could have been more precise by simplying saying," I use bcaa's in my shake."

Can't let it go, huh bro? Like drawing more attention to yourself being wrong? You are however getting dangerously close to admitting you were wrong. If you had not spouted off in the first place, none of this would be going on.

I just really take issue when people try to play internet cowboy when everyone understands the point of the post.

You cut me deep bro, cut me deep. Does this mean <gasp, dare I say it>, we are not going to be best buds?

Also, for the record I use a "natural" BCAA peptide which contains all EAA's

No matter how you try to reword it, even now you are still wrong. There is no possible way a BCAA product can contain EAA's. It is more like an AA product that contains added BCAA's.

it does qualify as a protein source but is sold as a BCAA supplement, it's theta aminos by protein factory if anyone is curious.

I have been going to PF for a long time, maybe you can link us to the product?

 

[-heavy-]

No need to make it more difficult than it is. A complex carb and lean protein source is what is optimal.

 

[javaguru]

Can't let it go, huh bro? Like drawing more attention to yourself being wrong? You are however getting dangerously close to admitting you were wrong. If you had not spouted off in the first place, none of this would be going on.



You cut me deep bro, cut me deep. Does this mean <gasp, dare I say it>, we are not going to be best buds?



No matter how you try to reword it, even now you are still wrong. There is no possible way a BCAA product can contain EAA's. It is more like an AA product that contains added BCAA's.



I have been going to PF for a long time, maybe you can link us to the product?

Borly, go to their website, go to supplements..look at theta aminos; I don't know if they still list the AA profile but it is a complete protein. Like I said, you can be an internet cowboy all you want but everyone knew what I was talking about on the thread. I've been giving protein advice on this forum for years.....do a search. Posting the amino acids doesn't make you an expert; I've given more than one lesson in biochem......