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Good Article Hoff... i think i might try a pre and post shake. Any suggestions on how much prot/carbs for the pre?
PRE workout drink
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Research performed by doctors and scientists at the University
Research performed by doctors and scientists at the University
of Texas demonstrated last year that taking an essential amino
acid/carbohydrate drink directly after weight training exercise
stimulated muscle building mechanisms by up to 400% above
normal rates. This is the highest recorded rate of muscle
anabolism.
It appears the stimulus of heavy resistance training combined
with the presence of all essential amino acids and high insulin
levels from simple carbohydrates, work together, synergistically
to produce this powerful anabolic response. Getting that easily
absorbed protein and carbs into your body right after training is
essential to muscle growth.
Now, the same group of researchers have recently provided
evidence that consuming the same carb/essential amino acid mix
just before training can be equally as potent at stimulating
muscle growth. This new study* determined that consuming the
protein (essential amino acid) and carbohydrate supplement just
before resistance exercise produced a greater anabolic response
than the same drink mix after resistance exercise.
The results on six healthy subjects showed that the delivery of
amino acids was significantly greater when the supplement was
taken during pre-training as opposed to after training. Total net phenylalanine uptake across the leg muscle was also greater when the supplement was taken during pre-training as opposed to after training, while the phenylalanine uptake appearance rate (the main indicator of muscle protein synthesis) increased equally in both consumption trials.
The researchers suggest this anabolic response may be due to the increased flow of amino acids into the working muscle during training. This makes sense. These studies are vital to our understanding of how to build muscle, but they only provide information on what's happening within a specific site (in this case the leg muscles) and not whole body protein turnover.
Research performed by doctors and scientists at the University
of Texas demonstrated last year that taking an essential amino
acid/carbohydrate drink directly after weight training exercise
stimulated muscle building mechanisms by up to 400% above
normal rates. This is the highest recorded rate of muscle
anabolism.
It appears the stimulus of heavy resistance training combined
with the presence of all essential amino acids and high insulin
levels from simple carbohydrates, work together, synergistically
to produce this powerful anabolic response. Getting that easily
absorbed protein and carbs into your body right after training is
essential to muscle growth.
Now, the same group of researchers have recently provided
evidence that consuming the same carb/essential amino acid mix
just before training can be equally as potent at stimulating
muscle growth. This new study* determined that consuming the
protein (essential amino acid) and carbohydrate supplement just
before resistance exercise produced a greater anabolic response
than the same drink mix after resistance exercise.
The results on six healthy subjects showed that the delivery of
amino acids was significantly greater when the supplement was
taken during pre-training as opposed to after training. Total net phenylalanine uptake across the leg muscle was also greater when the supplement was taken during pre-training as opposed to after training, while the phenylalanine uptake appearance rate (the main indicator of muscle protein synthesis) increased equally in both consumption trials.
The researchers suggest this anabolic response may be due to the increased flow of amino acids into the working muscle during training. This makes sense. These studies are vital to our understanding of how to build muscle, but they only provide information on what's happening within a specific site (in this case the leg muscles) and not whole body protein turnover.
true that it was a site specific study. But i dont think there would be much diference between levels measured in the leg, Then levels that would have been measured in the entire body. The study was also conducted with excersises done with the leg (leg extensions if i remember correctly).
Still its a nifty study huh
Still its a nifty study huh
Hoffmeister
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riskybizz007 said:
I've just moved my post workout to pre/during. I get about 75g carbs and 40g protein. I also usually add a tablespoon of flax oil.
Lyle Mcdonald has an article on protein (unfortunately, the link I have has been moved), which I think showed whey still dumping amino acids 2 hours after ingestion. I try to limit my workouts to 45-60 mins, so I didn't see the need for the additional post-workout drink.
I tend to eat a meal about an hour after my workout as well.
javaguru
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_jaap_- I notice the extra energy about halfway through my workout, I don't get the "drop off" that I usually experience. The other day I realized that I had been working out for one and a half hours and hadn't noticed. I also notice a great pump 20-30 minutes into my training, which is a great motivator. I remember reading that dextrose can increase osmotic pressure in the inetstine which actually increases the speed of nutrient absorption, just don't use too much. 
hardasnails73
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give this a try
hey guys,
Actual my old training partner writes those articles for t-mag. com and let me tell you he knows his shit. Here is what I have been doing and been working miracles, alot of increases in size as well as incredible strengtn increases !
benches are up about 20-30 lbs
i train at 630 pm
3:30
1 can tuna
4 whole eggs
1 tablespoon udos
spinach
5:00
2 ripped fuels
615 right before i leave the gym
1.5 scoops ultrafuel bty twin lab
3/4 scoop of isopure protein no carb mix
5 grams glutamine ast
5 grams creatine ast
in a blender
post work out immediaely
5 ius humalog
4 scoops ultra fuel by twin lab
5 grams creatine ast
5 grams glutemine east
wait 20 minutes
2 scoops iso pure low carb protein
wait an hour to an hour and 15 minutes and eat
12 oz cottage cheese
1 cup oamteal dry
1 banna
3 egg whites
wait 2 hours and
have high protein high fat meal !!
then bed
give it a try you will thank me !!
hey guys,
Actual my old training partner writes those articles for t-mag. com and let me tell you he knows his shit. Here is what I have been doing and been working miracles, alot of increases in size as well as incredible strengtn increases !
benches are up about 20-30 lbs
i train at 630 pm
3:30
1 can tuna
4 whole eggs
1 tablespoon udos
spinach
5:00
2 ripped fuels
615 right before i leave the gym
1.5 scoops ultrafuel bty twin lab
3/4 scoop of isopure protein no carb mix
5 grams glutamine ast
5 grams creatine ast
in a blender
post work out immediaely
5 ius humalog
4 scoops ultra fuel by twin lab
5 grams creatine ast
5 grams glutemine east
wait 20 minutes
2 scoops iso pure low carb protein
wait an hour to an hour and 15 minutes and eat
12 oz cottage cheese
1 cup oamteal dry
1 banna
3 egg whites
wait 2 hours and
have high protein high fat meal !!
then bed
give it a try you will thank me !!
