not to offend anyone or anything, but.........

[Blood&Iron]

Belial-

What got you all riled up, anyway? Doesn't seem to be your typical style. Just curious. Or is this an imposter?

 

[Screwball]

Overtraining...

Cut your volume in half. Up the amount of weight you use. Vary your rep schemes. Vary your exercises from workout to workout. Train with as much intensity as you can muster. Don't train for more than 60-75 minutes tops. Don't train a muscle again until it has fully recovered. Make sure you get enough food, sleep and restful down-time. This isn't rocket science. A basic, common sense approach to training will result in the best opportunity for you to maximize your gains (lean muscle mass and strength). Good luck!

One final thought:

The point in training is to stimulate growth. Once you have achieved this point in a training session (arbitrary I know) then any training beyond this point will cut into your ability to recover and grow. Thus, it is counter-productive to pound your body further than the point at which you have stimulated adaptation. The longer you train, the more familiar you become with how your body responds and reacts. You become better at determining the point at which you know that you've achieved this adaptive response. Hit the gym hard until you've stimulated growth and then get the hell out and grow!

 

[Belial]

Belial-

What got you all riled up, anyway? Doesn't seem to be your typical style. Just curious. Or is this an imposter?

lol. Sorry, had a good night last night so I'm feeling a little full of myself. Something about high test levels.

Still, it's somewhat irritating when I see posts like that. A decent point was made, but it still shows tremendous ignorance, and makes too many assumptions.




fuck.

Cool!

 

[gymtime]

......Sorry, had a good night last night so I'm feeling a little full of myself........

Oh yes. DRASTICALLY out of character.

 

[Belial]

Oh yes. DRASTICALLY out of character.

Watch it old man. I'll break your cane again. Then you're screwed.

 

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

Re: Training...

If you can't "hammer" your back in 12 sets (4 exercises - 3 sets each) then your not working out with enough intensity. I don't care if you're "using" or not.

Another factor is that the more experience you have with lifting, the less actual volume you need to work a target muscle. I've been lifting for over 15 yrs. and I don't need nearly the volume that I once required. Dorian Yates could get away with 1 or 2 heavy work sets and make gains because he lifted for many years and became very efficient at activating muscle fiber. His central nervous system was very efficient at muscle fiber recruitment in order to move big weight. However, he was also genetically gifted.

- Screwball

i was aimed at the younger aged people out there, not the older....so if u took it that way, dont......
like i said, and most agree, when u are young i.e. 20's, u can get away with alot, so why not take advantage of it all? lift till you die, go nuts, sure, when u are an old geezer, then lift responsably and accordingly, not when u are in ur weight lifting prime.....
this post is true, dorian did have sick ass genetics, and when u are older u do less, so like i said, dont take it to the older generations, it was meant for the 20 year old juicer that lifts like a pansy and used everything in the book juice wise and wont grow and wonders why, lack of intensity and a pair of balls, lifting isnt easy, all the dedication it takes i wouldnt wish on anyone else, it takes balls to work hard, in anything in life, and i know u argree to that......
screwball, good response

 

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

Re: Overtraining...

Cut your volume in half. Up the amount of weight you use. Vary your rep schemes. Vary your exercises from workout to workout. Train with as much intensity as you can muster. Don't train for more than 60-75 minutes tops. Don't train a muscle again until it has fully recovered. Make sure you get enough food, sleep and restful down-time. This isn't rocket science. A basic, common sense approach to training will result in the best opportunity for you to maximize your gains (lean muscle mass and strength). Good luck!

One final thought:

The point in training is to stimulate growth. Once you have achieved this point in a training session (arbitrary I know) then any training beyond this point will cut into your ability to recover and grow. Thus, it is counter-productive to pound your body further than the point at which you have stimulated adaptation. The longer you train, the more familiar you become with how your body responds and reacts. You become better at determining the point at which you know that you've achieved this adaptive response. Hit the gym hard until you've stimulated growth and then get the hell out and grow!

perfect!!!

 

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

Not everybody here is a juicehead either.

And maybe some of those f*cking idiots who lose all their gains after a cycle because they train like they're still on juice, and are still barely 200 pounds of sodden, gyno ridden sh*t might do well to pay attention to lower volume, "sissy" routines.

I would dare any of the f*ckers here who call low volume 'sissy' to run through a workout with me. 10 sets total for ANY bodypart can make you want to puke.

Well said, gymtime.

u are taking this out of context, ease on the test guy, not everyone hear is a juicehead?? that is a fair assumption for me to make that everyone is, hence the name and game of this board is about aas, isnt it?? i think it is.. i wasnt attracted to this board out of training routine desires....i would say a large ass majority are or were a steroid using lifter of some sort, or even athlete...

and yes, post steroid use routines do have to incorperate those low volume high intensity to keep gains, i wasnt talking about that though, so dont argue that point cause its moot, im talking about when people are "on" and they lift like sissys, i would run through a workout with you anyday... ive been through harder things than a 45 minute workout with a grandpa

 

[gymtime]

Watch it old man. I'll break your cane again. Then you're screwed.

Touch my cane again and I'll....I'll.......I'll call my nurse!! Yeah, that's it. She's as big as a Mack truck and twice as mean. You don't want none of Nurse Diesel my friend.

 

[JoNaThAnPeTeRs]

J/P