Newbie cycles that vets could learn from.

[Realgains]

I think d-bol is a great hormone for mass and I also think that 600 of primo and 50 of d-bol per day can get one pretty darn big if you train really hard , eat well and rest well.......but Arnold wasn't know for his brutal workouts.........he did have great genetics though..... damn it all.

Oh and he had Weider on his side all the time and thats why he won the 80 Olympia while in terrible shape and with no legs at all. You should have heard the crowd when he won........BOOOOOO big time. Should have been Zane or Mentzer for sure.

Mentzer quit pro bodybuilding at the age of 28 as a result of this Weider/Arnold combo crap and we never saw Mentzer each his peak! Too bad.
I loved Honest Mike.
RG

 

[Texas Ranger]

I've heard and believe Arnold experimented with HGH along with semi-high doses of Dbol(50mgs) and Primo, but we will never know.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Realgains, check your email, bro.

 

[Dizzy]

I don't think that high doses will do much if any more for the genetically challenged bro.

True the guys I mentioned were gifted but does that mean the average guy needs to take a gram of juice a week...maybe a little more but we have to be realistic I think.

RG

lol....I didn't mean that the genetically challenged guys should do larger doses. I said that I agreed they should eat and train properly and USUALLY find that they will get better gains.

My point was that some people (of all body types) need higher doses than others. Some don't respond well to low dose cycles. And yes that is with proper diet, training, and resting habits.

Diz

 

[Realgains]

NEWBIES check out my second post in this thread as it is here that I edited my initial post and talked about clomid, nolvadex and HCG.

RG

 

[kartoon]

mike Metzler was also on allot of speed( methamphetamines), he was even committed to an insane asylum because of it's abuse.

 

[Realgains]

mike Metzler was also on allot of speed( methamphetamines), he was even committed to an insane asylum because of it's abuse.

Never heard that bro and I was a Mentzer fanatic. He suffered from depression after he retired though.

RG

 

[Lift Chief]

never heard that either... maybe he really meant metzler?

 

[kartoon]

read it in an old iromman mag, talked about metzer(mike) seeing aliens and crazy shit like that because of meth use.

 

[rutNgut]

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