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My story is long but it is usefull info IMO...
So here I am in the middle of my fairly light 500mg Organon Duratest / 400mg QV EQ 10 week cycle… Did my Saturday shot one in each delt as usual with B-D 22ga 1” pins but in the left Delt (the Dura) as I pull the pin out I get a nice amount of dark colored blood seeping out. I figure big deal I went though vein, put some gauze on it, massaged it a bit, and went on with my day. So Tuesday comes along and I notice a lump (I figure the oil has just not dissipated yet) oval in shape about 1.5” long appearing vertical along the length of my left delt. I have very large shoulders that ball out and the lump could only be seen in some flexing positions, not at all in a relaxed state. I decide to start using a heat pad to possibly thin the oil, perhaps aid with dispersion, and go two more days…
Its Thursday now and the lump is still there, no pain, redness, or other symptoms one might expect from an infection, other then the odd swelling. At this point it is starting to make me nervous so I decide it is time for a “discovery lancing session” to see if this thing is fluid filled. I lance it dead center with a 22gz 1” to about ¾” depth then aspirate. Much to my surprise the syringe immediately fills with 1cc of cream colored PUS. I should have kept drawing while I was in, but I freaked out and decided it was time to go to the ER. (I feared the pus could have entered my blood stream leading to a more serious blood infection and possibly death). When I get to the ER I tell the Dr. have an Abscess in my left delt I explained to her how I got it, and how I was able to draw the CC of pus. In my head I figured she would just lance it, flush it out with some local antibiotic, then put me on a nice oral antibiotic, or perhaps even some IV goodness. Well, this bitch wanted a $1500 CAT scan and all kinds of crazy tests, (which I was desperately trying to avoid because I had a feeling insurance was not going to like this) She then refused to but me on the IV fearing possible malpractice (just for prescribing fucking antibiotics!!!) would not accept my “drawing puss” as medical evidence that there was actually an abscess present. She then explains that the typical practice for a deep muscle abscess is Surgery (I already was familiar with this disgusting procedure, but was hoping to avoid it my any means necessary). For those that do no know the procedure it involves making an incision along the length of the abscess (think 2 inches long 1” deep), into the muscle draining it thought the cut, then packing the wound with gauze. The cut remain OPEN, for the next 1-2 weeks while you remove the gauze daily and re pack it yourself until it heals from the inside out, at which point you return to the doctor to have it stitched closed.
Well, I was not trying to play that nasty surgery game and I had my own ideas about fixing this thing. I decide the surgery thirsty, graveyard shift, Indian woman is bugging out, and asker her to get me the surgeon on duty. An hour later he shows up and I explain that I would like to try to heal it without Surgery. He agrees with the first doctor, and explains that an Abscess almost always becomes encapsulated (forms its own pocket in the muscles) that makes it extremely difficult for conventional antibiotics to do their job due to the lack of adequate blood flow to the problem area. I finally convince him to prescribe them to me (first doctor objects). I explain I will try more heat compresses combined with the antibiotics, as well as a very strict (don’t laugh) diet of natural detoxifying plants, herbs, and juicers to help aid recovery.
Over the next 7 days I took the Levaquin 500mg daily, used a heat compress 20 min of every hour I was awake, and stick to my natural detox diet. After day 7 IT WAS GONE! Over all I skipped one week in my cycle, and lost about 4 pounds. I just took 2 shots yesterday (no delts lol, Quads) to get me back on. After this cycle I am not sure I will juice again. During this whole thing I look back at my procedure and try to figure out how this happened…
I think it formed because of the following.
1. I went thought that vein, I imagine it continued to bleed internally, and combined with the 2cc of oil to form a large initial pocket
2. I used a low percentage alcohol 7x%, in the future I will use only 90%+
3. I may have pushed the oil to fast thought the 22ga, in the future I will go VERY slowly, I may even roll back to the 23ga to ensure this.
4. DURA may not be so clean.
5. I love to use delts, perhaps scar tissue helped form it?
6. A few friends and I have had this damn light sinus/ moderate cough “super sickness” that will not go away for over 3 weeks. (Even my antibiotics did not make it go away). My immune system was probably weak from fighting this sickness for the last few weeks to fight off the initial infection (however the hell it was formed)
7. From now on I will use a heat pad, and massage after every injection. I NEVER wish to go thought this fear again!
Well, that’s my story… Don’t think it can’t happen to you!!! I have done 100s of shots and never had a problem. This sure changed my mind about using homemade fina anyways!!! I hope it helps some of you out there.
Question… lol how do you think that week off will effect my cycle?? This really blew the big one because I was just hitting my peak when it all happened!!! I hope it come back.
So here I am in the middle of my fairly light 500mg Organon Duratest / 400mg QV EQ 10 week cycle… Did my Saturday shot one in each delt as usual with B-D 22ga 1” pins but in the left Delt (the Dura) as I pull the pin out I get a nice amount of dark colored blood seeping out. I figure big deal I went though vein, put some gauze on it, massaged it a bit, and went on with my day. So Tuesday comes along and I notice a lump (I figure the oil has just not dissipated yet) oval in shape about 1.5” long appearing vertical along the length of my left delt. I have very large shoulders that ball out and the lump could only be seen in some flexing positions, not at all in a relaxed state. I decide to start using a heat pad to possibly thin the oil, perhaps aid with dispersion, and go two more days…
Its Thursday now and the lump is still there, no pain, redness, or other symptoms one might expect from an infection, other then the odd swelling. At this point it is starting to make me nervous so I decide it is time for a “discovery lancing session” to see if this thing is fluid filled. I lance it dead center with a 22gz 1” to about ¾” depth then aspirate. Much to my surprise the syringe immediately fills with 1cc of cream colored PUS. I should have kept drawing while I was in, but I freaked out and decided it was time to go to the ER. (I feared the pus could have entered my blood stream leading to a more serious blood infection and possibly death). When I get to the ER I tell the Dr. have an Abscess in my left delt I explained to her how I got it, and how I was able to draw the CC of pus. In my head I figured she would just lance it, flush it out with some local antibiotic, then put me on a nice oral antibiotic, or perhaps even some IV goodness. Well, this bitch wanted a $1500 CAT scan and all kinds of crazy tests, (which I was desperately trying to avoid because I had a feeling insurance was not going to like this) She then refused to but me on the IV fearing possible malpractice (just for prescribing fucking antibiotics!!!) would not accept my “drawing puss” as medical evidence that there was actually an abscess present. She then explains that the typical practice for a deep muscle abscess is Surgery (I already was familiar with this disgusting procedure, but was hoping to avoid it my any means necessary). For those that do no know the procedure it involves making an incision along the length of the abscess (think 2 inches long 1” deep), into the muscle draining it thought the cut, then packing the wound with gauze. The cut remain OPEN, for the next 1-2 weeks while you remove the gauze daily and re pack it yourself until it heals from the inside out, at which point you return to the doctor to have it stitched closed.
Well, I was not trying to play that nasty surgery game and I had my own ideas about fixing this thing. I decide the surgery thirsty, graveyard shift, Indian woman is bugging out, and asker her to get me the surgeon on duty. An hour later he shows up and I explain that I would like to try to heal it without Surgery. He agrees with the first doctor, and explains that an Abscess almost always becomes encapsulated (forms its own pocket in the muscles) that makes it extremely difficult for conventional antibiotics to do their job due to the lack of adequate blood flow to the problem area. I finally convince him to prescribe them to me (first doctor objects). I explain I will try more heat compresses combined with the antibiotics, as well as a very strict (don’t laugh) diet of natural detoxifying plants, herbs, and juicers to help aid recovery.
Over the next 7 days I took the Levaquin 500mg daily, used a heat compress 20 min of every hour I was awake, and stick to my natural detox diet. After day 7 IT WAS GONE! Over all I skipped one week in my cycle, and lost about 4 pounds. I just took 2 shots yesterday (no delts lol, Quads) to get me back on. After this cycle I am not sure I will juice again. During this whole thing I look back at my procedure and try to figure out how this happened…
I think it formed because of the following.
1. I went thought that vein, I imagine it continued to bleed internally, and combined with the 2cc of oil to form a large initial pocket
2. I used a low percentage alcohol 7x%, in the future I will use only 90%+
3. I may have pushed the oil to fast thought the 22ga, in the future I will go VERY slowly, I may even roll back to the 23ga to ensure this.
4. DURA may not be so clean.
5. I love to use delts, perhaps scar tissue helped form it?
6. A few friends and I have had this damn light sinus/ moderate cough “super sickness” that will not go away for over 3 weeks. (Even my antibiotics did not make it go away). My immune system was probably weak from fighting this sickness for the last few weeks to fight off the initial infection (however the hell it was formed)
7. From now on I will use a heat pad, and massage after every injection. I NEVER wish to go thought this fear again!
Well, that’s my story… Don’t think it can’t happen to you!!! I have done 100s of shots and never had a problem. This sure changed my mind about using homemade fina anyways!!! I hope it helps some of you out there.
Question… lol how do you think that week off will effect my cycle?? This really blew the big one because I was just hitting my peak when it all happened!!! I hope it come back.
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