Lot of lab results back---advice needed

[matter2003]

No I love healthy fats...fatty fish, olive oil(verified real), avocados, and dark chocolate...

I think what many fail to realize is the effect chronic low grade inflammation has on their hormonal levels, especially thyroid...part of the reason for the improvement in TSH levels I attribute to avoiding foods that caused me chronic inflammation via a book called "The Plan" by Lyn Genet Recitas...highly recommend it to everyone

 

[Shrine1]

TRT is AAS my man

250 mg test wk for TRT is about double a "normal" trt dose to keep you in the 900-1000 ng/dl area.
If you are having joint issues I would wager your low test is to blame. I would love to see your other thyroid levels I mentioned earlier. If diet and cardio are done right and do not remove fat then the thyroid is definitely an issue. Fucked up thyroid numbers can cause low test also just as low test can cause thyroid issues. I would say 80% of people in general have a thyroid issue. Even if its only slight. But then 95% of those people would never seek help or get diagnosed because of being in "normal ranges". Which is sad because a small amount of medication could improve many things. For example my LDL would NOT go below 105-110 the last year no matter what I did or took or tried. Soon as I started taking Armour (natural thyroid med) it dropped right down. Thyroid effects everything in your body.
I would take an educated guess that while your TSH has decreased it means obviously your pituitary is calling for less T4 to be made. I would wager this is because its not getting converted to T3 properly therefore I'd guess your Free T3 is low. Thus, more body fat. But that's a guess. it really could be anything. Low Test and thyroid issues go hand in hand though.
I suggest taking your temperature as Zyglamail said. that will be a real indicator of being Hypo.

Really good information bro... I didnt realize how important thyroid functionality is. Needless to say I would shay away from ever supplementing T3 to increase body fat loss. Seems to me throwing off that hormone in anyway is asking for trouble

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[burnthiscorpse]

Really good information bro... I didnt realize how important thyroid functionality is. Needless to say I would shay away from ever supplementing T3 to increase body fat loss. Seems to me throwing off that hormone in anyway is asking for trouble

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No, I never meant for him to take T3. If he needed meds the only way to go is real thyroid hormone which is called Armour. Naturally derived from living animals. Its a mix of T4 and T3. Synthroid is garbage and also what 99% of doctors want you to take (because the kickbacks are huge).
Taking t3 alone is a very bad idea unless you need it medically. Taking it for fat loss is just fucking stupid. If you introduce synthetic T3 when you don't need it, it will halt (or seriously decrease) the conversion of T4 into T3, thus telling the pituitary that no more T4 is needed to be made by the thyroid because its seeing higher levels because nothing is getting converted. It can really create a big mess.

 

[Zyglamail]

If he needed meds the only way to go is real thyroid hormone which is called Armour.

I agree if one MUST take meds, Armour is the way to go. That being said, the ops comments on not being able to drop fat sounds like underperforming thyroid and/or higher than normal cortisol levels which would indicate adrenal fatigue.

Either way natural supplementation to restore optimal function would be the best route and first thing to do.

 

[Shrine1]

No, I never meant for him to take T3. If he needed meds the only way to go is real thyroid hormone which is called Armour. Naturally derived from living animals. Its a mix of T4 and T3. Synthroid is garbage and also what 99% of doctors want you to take (because the kickbacks are huge).
Taking t3 alone is a very bad idea unless you need it medically. Taking it for fat loss is just fucking stupid. If you introduce synthetic T3 when you don't need it, it will halt (or seriously decrease) the conversion of T4 into T3, thus telling the pituitary that no more T4 is needed to be made by the thyroid because its seeing higher levels because nothing is getting converted. It can really create a big mess.

Yeah, I wasnt insinuating you advised him to sup T3... I just see so many people incorp that in their cycle to lose BF and it seems like a really bad idea. Especially after reading the information you laid out. Ill be honest.. I almost fell into this idea of supplementing T3 but after diligent research it seemed to be a bad idea

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[Zyglamail]

Yeah, I wasnt insinuating you advised him to sup T3... I just see so many people incorp that in their cycle to lose BF and it seems like a really bad idea. Especially after reading the information you laid out. Ill be honest.. I almost fell into this idea of supplementing T3 but after diligent research it seemed to be a bad idea

The reason thyroid meds are so frequently prescribed is that the FDA claims the safe upper iodine limit is 400mcg. With that in mind a "regular doc" isnt going to recommend any more than that and thats rarely even close to whats needed to restore optimal thyroid function.

Things are further confused because poorly done studies have shown iodine alone to cause more problems, which it does, and thats because iodine, like most nutrients, doesnt work alone. It needs other crucial elements (selenium, various B's etc) and without them, iodine alone will exacerbate the problem.

 

[stevesmi]

Depends on your definition of wrong I guess. Do I think there is a medical need for immediate action? Naw. BUT most people here are looking to optimize their training, diet, strength etc.

You optimize results by optimizing your bodily functions and depending on who you believe some professionals claim that between 10 and 40 of the population has an underfunctioning thyroid. The easy way to tell is take your basal metabolic temperature and you will know.

exactly. in the year 2013 what is considered normal is very different then it used to be.

and in another 20 years its gonna be even worse due to overpopulation and other factors

 

[matter2003]

Yes,Armour is the way to go, or the new generic that came out. They are also finding more and more that T2, long thought to be useless does perform important functions.

Also Japan has the highest iodine intake daily at about 12.5mg and are among the healthiest people in the world

 

[Zyglamail]

Also Japan has the highest iodine intake daily at about 12.5mg and are among the healthiest people in the world

Thats why im currently loading iodine with 50mg a day. Fat is melting away with no other changes.

 

[Shrine1]

Thats why im currently loading iodine with 50mg a day. Fat is melting away with no other changes.

Zyglamail you mentioned this before but where is the best place to find iodine?

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