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[dylangemelli]

Thanks, bro. I was wondering when you were going to get your ass in here . Sure, we can definitely talk anytime. I'll be in and out all night. Glad you are aboard!

Im in bro! =). I have so much going on buying a new house etc so my time on here is always on the fly but im in bro =). Look forward to talking with you!

 

[ledhead]

I hope you guys don't mind a woman jumping in. I've read this thread all the way through. Very informative.
Regarding the above, is this true for women as well? Are 6-8 week cycles the best way to cycle? I did notice on my last NPP run I saw the biggest gains around week 7-9, then not much after, strength increased but not much (if any) muscle mass.

Sorry, I missed this question. Yes, 8 week cycles are the best because like I said, or the article says is that Myostatin will stall a cycle at week 8. We have known this for years, that's why myself and my circle of friends stay on all year.

Now, I don't know what your objectives are, so I will speculate that you just cycle. There are some things we can do to extend a cycle past week 8 but it will only be extended maybe three weeks for more LBM gains.

First, you could add a more anabolic compound at week 8, but you being a female and already take NPP I'm not quite sure what you would be able to add that's more anabolic that would not give you adverse effects.

We also add an oral around week 7, which will give another 2-3 week extension but that would be it, that cycle is history after that.

Also, believe it or not, creatine is known to combat myostatin to a degree. Therefore, my suggestion to you would be add anavar with creatine at week 7, that should give you another 2-3 weeks of LBM gains. Moreover, anavar and creatine have a good synergistic effect together, so this might be your ticket.

 

[CML0915]

Sorry, I missed this question. Yes, 8 week cycles are the best because like I said, or the article says is that Myostatin will stall a cycle at week 8. We have known this for years, that's why myself and my circle of friends stay on all year.

Now, I don't know what your objectives are, so I will speculate that you just cycle. There are some things we can do to extend a cycle past week 8 but it will only be extended maybe three weeks for more LBM gains.

First, you could add a more anabolic compound at week 8, but you being a female and already take NPP I'm not quite sure what you would be able to add that's more anabolic that would not give you adverse effects.

We also add an oral around week 7, which will give another 2-3 week extension but that would be it, that cycle is history after that.

Also, believe it or not, creatine is known to combat myostatin to a degree. Therefore, my suggestion to you would be add anavar with creatine at week 7, that should give you another 2-3 weeks of LBM gains. Moreover, anavar and creatine have a good synergistic effect together, so this might be your ticket.

Eventually I'd like to compete in Physique. Right now that goal is probably a good 2, maybe even 3 years away. I am having surgery and will be out of the gym for at least 4 months, no heavy lifting anyways, but after that it'll be non stop muscle building time. Maybe a mini cut here and there for bikini seasons. But like i said, main goal is building.
Right now I don't have any desire to try any other injectable than NPP. My next cycle I had planned was NPP, anavar and possibly HGH, I'm under 30, I'm not sure it would even be worth it at this point.
. So are you saying don't start the Var until around week 7, drop the NPP And continue for a few more weeks on just Var and creatine? Or could i do both until week 7, drop NPP, then up the Var dose?

 

[lithium1189]

Quite a bit of information on here, changes a few things about what knowlege I had about proper cycling. I had a cycle in mind for this winter, I will list my stats and goals:

24
185lbs
12% BF

The cycle I had in mind was to make quality gains but not to blow up, keep the dosages of the compounds low. I really want to give EQ a shot and this was going to be a 20 week cycle, with transdermals, including transdermal tren as a kickstart. I am going to be natural for a while, and figure I will be bellow 10% BF and put on a little more mass before this cycle. Diet and training is on point.

Weeks 1-7 Superdrol (Transdermal) @ 25mg ED
Weeks 1-20 EQ @ 500mg EW
Weeks 1-20 Test E @ 250mg EW
Weeks 8-13 Tren (Transdermal) @ 50mg ED (350mg EW)
Weeks 11-20 Tren E (inject) @ 400mg EW
Weeks 14-20 Winstrol (Transdermal) @ 50mg ED

But with some of the things I have read here, I am not to sure anymore. I take It maybe I can keep the superdrol and EQ as planned but run the Tren for only 8 weeks instead of 12, and start the test at the same time as the tren. You have been helpful in the past, wondering if you can help me out with this layout.

Thanks bro!

 

[NegroPops]

This thread is changing how everyone does cycles!!

 

[ledhead]

Eventually I'd like to compete in Physique. Right now that goal is probably a good 2, maybe even 3 years away. I am having surgery and will be out of the gym for at least 4 months, no heavy lifting anyways, but after that it'll be non stop muscle building time. Maybe a mini cut here and there for bikini seasons. But like i said, main goal is building.
Right now I don't have any desire to try any other injectable than NPP. My next cycle I had planned was NPP, anavar and possibly HGH, I'm under 30, I'm not sure it would even be worth it at this point.
. So are you saying don't start the Var until around week 7, drop the NPP And continue for a few more weeks on just Var and creatine? Or could i do both until week 7, drop NPP, then up the Var dose?

Yes, start the var and creatine at week 7 and run it through week 11, and drop the NPP. No, don't up the var dose because that will cause your body to combat Myostatin even more. Remember, what goes up must come down.. The faster it goes up the faster it goes down!

 

[ledhead]

Quite a bit of information on here, changes a few things about what knowlege I had about proper cycling. I had a cycle in mind for this winter, I will list my stats and goals:

24
185lbs
12% BF

The cycle I had in mind was to make quality gains but not to blow up, keep the dosages of the compounds low. I really want to give EQ a shot and this was going to be a 20 week cycle, with transdermals, including transdermal tren as a kickstart. I am going to be natural for a while, and figure I will be bellow 10% BF and put on a little more mass before this cycle. Diet and training is on point.

First, lose the transdermals because IMO they are worthless. Second, you missed crucial points that I already posted. A 20 week cycle is worthless. Do an 8 week cycle then cruise until week 20, then the cycle will start to baseline again at week 20, hence at the 20 week mark you can go back on a full blown cycle from there on..

Weeks 1-7 Superdrol (Transdermal) @ 25mg ED
Weeks 1-20 EQ @ 500mg EW
Weeks 1-20 Test E @ 250mg EW
Weeks 8-13 Tren (Transdermal) @ 50mg ED (350mg EW)
Weeks 11-20 Tren E (inject) @ 400mg EW
Weeks 14-20 Winstrol (Transdermal) @ 50mg ED

But with some of the things I have read here, I am not to sure anymore. I take It maybe I can keep the superdrol and EQ as planned but run the Tren for only 8 weeks instead of 12, and start the test at the same time as the tren. You have been helpful in the past, wondering if you can help me out with this layout.

Thanks bro!

Run whatever compounds you want for 8 weeks, then insert the tren at week 8 for some more LBM gains for a couple more weeks because it is more anabolic then the other compounds you mentioned. Again, even adding the tren at week 8 that cycle is done within a couple weeks..

 

[CML0915]

Yes, start the var and creatine at week 7 and run it through week 11, and drop the NPP. No, don't up the var dose because that will cause your body to combat Myostatin even more. Remember, what goes up must come down.. The faster it goes up the faster it goes down!

Thanks!!

 

[ledhead]

This thread is changing how everyone does cycles!!

It should because now people will actually learn how to run a correct cycle.

 

[dylangemelli]

Everything that was laid out by Led makes absolute perfect sense and is backed all the way... This is such valuable information and is going to help many of us enhance everything we are doing and get the maximum out of our hard work... Thanks for the great info bro... It is greatly appreciated and I can't wait to utilize this method...