Last Squat Session Till June 1st Meet! Not That Good!

[powerlifterjay]

Well for starters i am not making excuses. BUt... come meet day excuses or not there is no room for error. I came in tonight to squat but didnt really have a pre phsyce going. My biggest concern was squatting without the mirror. SO if i am correct i did my 805 (a tad high) 2 weeks ago today. The following week (last week i went up to 675 to feel the weight facing away from the mirror. Ok i guess. Grimmer called my depth and put me way in the hole. So tongith i was just going to do my 725 opener. Well i cant say the weight felt heavy , hell i can squat 725 with no suit, but here is how it went
135 x 10
225x 5
315x 5
405x 3 suit on straps down
500x 3
585x 2
650x 1 straps up
725 x1 opener missed!!!!!

Missed my fuckin opener! I had freak19 call my depth. Excuse #1 without the mirror i squat way too slow to start with. Since he was calling my depth iam going slower just waiting to here "UP". So it was the slowest freakin squat down, anyway you could imagine. Excuse number 2 i squat so much better with my straps down. It felt like it wasnt pulled on right to allow my arch. At the bottom i felt pancked and flat as hell. Shot right out of th ehole but felt a hair forward. So basically i felt out of groove , but just a tad out. Not enough in my opinion to cause a miss. It didnt feel heavy, or uncontrolable. So here is why i missed in my opinion.
#1 lifting too heavy too often. Missd Pr on the 4 brd last night by 50lbs or so! Ya i know.
#2 needed to squat my own pace and feel my own depth especially facing away from the mirror for only the second week.
#3 need to get my suit pulled up to were i can arch better.
#4 get my freakin mind set. Didnt feel very aggresive.

Preping for this meet is killing me. My bench is taking a dive for this squatting shit. And my joints (all ) are very sore. So even though i knwo i could have got it on another attempt i am going to lower my opener to 700lbs. Its like this, i wanna leave there with most of my attempts, and if that means leaving some in the bank so be it. I figure 700 is safe weight. Actually 725 is, but to follow my game plan and avoid doing it again next week i am just gonna lower my opener. So attmepts may now be 700 750 788. I wanna hit all three. If that had been 805 i would have went down! So having done 805 in my gym with everyone there and yelling makes a huge difference. And it leaves me with the confidence that the other weight can be easily handled.

So anyway dont mean to rant or make excuses but basically feel like total shit and i should have done it again to find my groove and just blast it up so i could feel better. But i feel like iam just a hair away from being over trained. Did 620 bench monday, 550 opening pull tuesday 650 brd press thurs, and 725 tonight. I am fucked up! Need break. But i dont feel defeated by the weight tongith because it felt more out of groove then heavy. Never felt heavy but a miss is a miss. Right? You miss three attempts at a ameet (which i have) it doesnt matter how, your out. Basically i feel i have not mastered my suit.

Cant you tell Iam upset? I keep repeating myself. Good bye!

 

[Deciever]

better luck next time... dont let it get to you. Just a bad day. Shrug it off, and give the squat hell at the contest. Squat suits are a bitch to get on perfectly .. i just got mine to work today (read my thread "Testing on my squat suit.. PART 2") .

Just take some time off from squatting heavy (which you are doing now) and just let your body heal

 

[vtec96]

sometimes it happens... too much heavy lifting getting ready for the meet, and psycologically letting it get to you....Dont let it!!!!
You know you can sq that 805, you did it before, and you can do it again....so, maybe just layback "just a little" right now, then be STRONG for the meet and set new PR'S!!!! Also, I agree that working your SQ w/o the mirror to practice depth-speed is very important too.... try working w/o the mirror a little and that might do the trick...

Remember, HTFW

Good luck bro.....

 

[k1401]

Jay relax bro, take it easy you train hard and heavy all the time
it's starting to take it's toll, slow down feel comfortable with the weight, you can do it bro, we all know it here and were all here for ya. Shit if you want to rant, rave bitch and complain, go ahead and do it.
You know it's easy weight, and though many oof us aren't with you in person, we're all with you in spirit.
Anyway enough of the mushy shit.
Drink a dozen or 2 beers and kick ass in the gym next week!

 

[IrishPower]

pljay: dont sweat it.

i have YET to have a meet where the training went according to plan. in the past, i ALWAYS left my best in the gym.

i think it is a combination of training heavy as hell as well as changing mental attitude towards training near the end.

let me explain:

lots of people go into the gym and think they are going to take 'just' their opener. they don't have a psyche on. they expect to just get the weight. i think it works against you to do this. 700+ lbs is NEVER light, even if you are a 900 lb squatter. You have to mean business when you get under that kind of weight or as you found out, it will OWN you.

I don't mean to try and get you to change your training for this meet, but this is one of the things i LOVE about westside.

I can always get a psyche on to go and pound up some speed weight, even if i am over-trained. if the weight moves, and my body doesnt feel beat up, i will go up and take a heavy. if it is a little sluggish, i usually just call it a day and walk away happy and knowing that i accomplished something and not getting mentally beat up by missing a weight i have toyed with in the past.

NOW, let me try and make you feel better. the other week, i defied my own reasoning and tried to take a heavy after my box squat weight even though i felt like shit. i got crushed with 625 thinking their was no way that could happen cause i'd done 675 a couple weeks back. i underestimated my enemy. unless you are doing like 50 - 60% of your weight, it is never 'LIGHT'.

well, i took 10 days to regroup, concentrating on hypers and speed and came back last week to smoke a 715 free squat, no knee wraps and after 8 doubles with mini-bands.

you will be back. relax. drink some beer.

/irish

 

[Screwball]

Jay, you've been going too hard for too long. Give your body a little time to recuperate and your strength will exceed all of your previous numbers. At this point, there is nothing you can do in training that is going to increase your strength at the meet. Practice your technique and get some AR work in. Once your body receovers you will hit ALL of the numbers you're shooting for. Get your head right and don't let one or two bad workouts nullify all of the exceptional training you've done up to this point. You're there physically so concetrate on the mental. You can go 800+, 600+, 600+ with a 2,000+ total. I know it. Your training partners know it. Everyone on this board knows it. And YOU know it! Believe it and do it!

 

[powerlifterjay]

Thanks guys. I do feel better aftr sleeping on it. Bottom line is mental is very important. And though i didnt get raged before i did it, i did squat to oo slow waiting to hear a UP. I never do this and now i know why. As i layed in bed last night i though about all the times i had little misses or even dumped weight in the gym. And everytime i had a suit on. Last week when Grimmer called my depth i was pancaked atthe bottom as well. But 50lbs more was too much to compensate for. Being a hair forward caused my hipes to come up just a little bit faster then the rest. Result no go. I thought how many times i have i seen somebody miss grove the first attepmet at a meet and come back and smoke it. Well i should have done it again to dominate befor eth emeet. But today i am glad i didnt. Thinking about a 725 squat makes me laugh! Its a joke ! I can do it with no suit on.

I called Jimmie dean last night he was spotting me and i said what the fuck dude. He said bad attempt so what. I said should i lower my opener? He said no bad attempt. Just feel your own depth and pop it up. I wouldnt change anything. So even with that siad i am opening with 705. My first attempt must me deep and fast. This my sound stupid, but i would like less on my total and for the first time get all three attemts , then to get 2 atteptms and less on my total then if i got all three. They may go 705, 750, 788 or 705 , 750, 804 I will not know the last one till then.

Thanks guys but i feel lots better mentaly. My hips came up faster and i was too far forward, and thinking about re doing it seems funny. Cause it never felt heavy, the decend was ok till the last 2 inches which took 3 more seconds to get down. Like Freak19
's uncle said " if you didnt have bad days, you'd never know what a good one feels like"!

Thats why ina way i invey Jimme Dean's style. He is doing the same opener and has no worries. He is back box squatting after just doing his second attpemt squat of 765 a couple of weeks ago. He is so much technique were iam more just brute force. But the technique seems to carry you alot further in this sport. I lift heavier more often then he does but when it counts the most he doesnt fuck up like i do. He is smooth and confident like a robot! Were i get nervous and weaker and shaky. Keep in mind this lets, say i get all my attempts sqauutting. Or just two , whatever. I still gotta get some weight to touch my chest in the bench! Oh boy!