Just started HGH (ansamone)

[FightinFit]

I have had no welts or anything like that niether has anyone I know using it the company who supply it say it is 191 and that its just as hard to produce 192 as it is 191 so its pointless to make it 192. If HGH half life is only 3 hours can sides only jappen in this time frame i.e after the growth has left the body do sides carry on ? Im using HGH with nothing else I am a boxer so I have diff goals.

 

[Brawl]

gearandsauce I just didnt edit that part of my profile ... maybe I should .

fighnfit ... your sides will be there pretty soon regardless of your injection time . At the one to two week time period my knees and ankles started to ache badly . That should disapear in about a week or so . Your joints will hurt a little bit . Your fingers should go numb , kinda like carpal tunnel but not the pain just the falling asleep of your fingers . That is from water retention around your nerves . You will be fine bro but it will drive you nuts .

I know you have different goals but you probably still should have done some gear with it . You could have chosen a gear to reflect your goals .

 

[FightinFit]

I see do the sides only last the time of the drug or are they there all the time ? As its only active for about 2hours so surely the sides can only work as long as the drug ? Anyway Im going to nock it down to 2iu ed and build up as per the above advice I only shoot it once ed anyway and have had no sides but sleepyness although its only been 4 days.

 

[FightinFit]

By welts what do you mean I get a tiny hardly noticable red circle where the pin has been in but only for a day the next day its hardly there?

 

[mrplunkey]

Hmm... shopping list of stuff, but here goes:

Even at 2 IU's, I get a tiny welt but it passes in 1-2 minutes.

The sides can last well after the 1-2 hours the HGH is in your system. I do 5 days on then 2 days off, and the only side I notice diminishing by the second day off is some edema in my hands.

Joint pain, particularly in the wrists is a very common side. You may also notice your shoulders being sore in the evenings. Edema in your hands is common as well.

If you do get sides at 4 IU's per day, don't try to "gut it out and get past them" -- drop the dose. I tried the gut-it-out technique and was miserable for weeks. It wasn't until I cut-back to 2 IU's per day for almost 2 weeks that the sides went away. Then, I went back to 4 IU's per day and all has been great since.

I have problems waking up early in the mornings, but I can usually go back to sleep (i'm retired IRL). I normally shoot my first 2 IU's when I wake-up around 6:00 AM, but then go back to sleep for 45 mins or so. Then, I can shower and meander around a little and before I know it, i've waited 1 to 1.5 hours (sometimes 2) before eating -- which is good since you want your blood sugar low while the HGH is in your system.

I do my nightly dose before bed. I personally don't think it's optimal, but since I don't use Slin with my HGH, I have to insure low blood sugar manually. Creating a blood sugar gap in the afternoon was a bitch for me. It was easier to not eat past 7:30 PM, shoot at 10:00 PM, then go straight to bed.

If your going to start HGH with AAS, get the HGH rolling a few weeks early and work-through the sides. You don't want HGH joint-pain rolling-in right as your AAS are kicking in. Besides, you should do HGH for longer runs anyway (i.e. 6 months).

Oh, and I swear by HGH... I'm 37 and loving it.

 

[FightinFit]

MrPlunkey what a great post mate thanks Im 27 Im nerves of the sides as I worry when on gear am only doing HGH at the mo as I am a thai boxer and I also fight MMA. Which brand are you using I may just use 2iu ed for the first 3 weeks and see how I am ? how come the sides are still hapening after the drug is gone I got told to eat before takin HGH or you can get diabetic symptoms I will change this now thanks.

 

[mrplunkey]

MrPlunkey what a great post mate thanks Im 27 Im nerves of the sides as I worry when on gear am only doing HGH at the mo as I am a thai boxer and I also fight MMA. Which brand are you using I may just use 2iu ed for the first 3 weeks and see how I am ? how come the sides are still hapening after the drug is gone I got told to eat before takin HGH or you can get diabetic symptoms I will change this now thanks.

I'd definately start at 2 IU's at first. I think the sides persist even beyond 1-2 hours after administration because it's what the HGH converts into (IGF-1, I think) that we're really after anyway. That hangs-around a lot longer than HGH. This board has biochemical gurus who can explain the process far better than I can. Also, low blood sugar is definately desirable while the HGH is in your system. I don't know the details as to why, but no one I've come across has said otherwise.

I originally used the Saizen powder. It came in 5 mg vials and I mixed it with 3 ml of BA water. I can't say anything bad about it -- it was good stuff.

About 2 months ago, I changed over to the Genotropin mini-quicks (it's a pre-packaged syringe where you mix the powder inside the syringe using a twisting mechanism) for convenience and because I loved the super-sharp needles. The miniquicks are more expensive, but I travel some and its wonderful to not need refrigeration and/or worry about when you're going to finish-off a particular vial. Also, I noticed the HGH really thickened my skin (in a good way) and the slin pin I was using with the saizen sometimes had trouble piercing my skin after being dulled in the saizen vial (i'm a fanatic about sharp needles).

Best of luck with the HGH! I'll be curious as to how it works for a 27-year old. I've noticed a ton of 35+ year olds love it, and it seems to me that the "HGH Does nothing for me" posts tend to be from younger (i.e. 25 or below) year olds. I think you are kinda on the bubble there at 27 -- I hope it works for you.

One other parting note (were getting into an area of hot debate, so I may get flamed)... Many think (including me) that 2 IU's per day promotes fat loss and a feeling of well-being, and that 4+ IU's are required for anabolic effects. There is some controversy though over the anabolic effects of HGH when used alone. A lot of people believe that 4 IU's alone won't be anabolic unless used in conjunction with AAS. It's also pretty broadly believed that AAS and HGH have synergistic effects tho. To play it safe, I do 2 IU's between cycles and do 4 IU's per day while on-cycle and through PCT.

 

[FightinFit]

Great stuff I think alot of people get bunk HGH or stuff that has not been stored right espeacially the chinease which has to be refridgerated at all times even before its reconstituted. Im looking forward to my cycle I like HGH because you can't die off it and it dosn't fuck up your lipids it actually helps them ALOT good news for AAS users. I don't ike fuckin with drugs that can bite me.


Thanks alot everyone espeacially MrPlunkey