Just ordered a DE Squat Suit- advice?

[latinus_spicticus]

Okay, just got off the phone with Inzer. Um, I ordered the champion suit from them. I didn't know until very recently that you had to wear a suit or briefs when using the box squats.

I hope I got the right thing, I searched all through this site and basically came to the conclusion that everyone had different opinions on how/what to order, so I researched and bought the cheapest available suit. Anyway, the funny thing is that I gave all my measurements to the lady and she said it would be a size 36! Fuck, I asked her if that was correct, b/c my thighs are 25" at mid-point, my butt is 40", and my waist is 32". She said, since your butt is big you have to get a 36. Then I told her I didn't want a competition fit, so she said "okay, honey, you'll need a 38 then". I about shit my pants, I only weigh 202 and have a 32" waist. I am pretty small to be wearing anything that says 38 on the tag. I am worried that I this thing is going to be too loose to support my hips. Does anyone have experience with these suits (again, I searched but only found a couple of posts, which were irrelevant)? I tried to ask her a lot of questions on the phone but she was all about getting the sale over with ASAP. I tend to stress out over little things, anyway. Now I am about to have a panic attack (chugs an imaginary glass of southern comfort)...ahh...Oh well, I guess it is a learning experience. I really wanted to get the Titan but I wasn't sure if it was appropriate for simple hip protection (it is supposed to be really heavy duty fabric as far as I know) plus it is twice the price. I will probably buy one for competition, though.

Now on to the belt. I have a tapered belt, is that good enough for DE box squatting or do I need to buy a 4" non-tapered thickass powerlifting belt (I know I will need one to compete). From what I know, I just need to learn how to use my abs, so maybe I can turn my belt around backwards so the 4" part is in the front? If not, what are the preferred brands? I am thinking maybe inzer or titan if it is absolutely necessary, but there are a shitload of others like crain, bob's belts,etc. Can anyone help me out with this? I basically want to get the best belt for the money, funds are tight right now and I need to buy a GOOD(texas power bar, most likely) as my old york olympic bar just isn't cutting the mustard anymore. And if anyone wants to PM me or email me about maybe finding a used belt, please don't hesitate.

I already have the blue cons, funny thing is I bought the suit in royal blue without even thinking so I will look like a royal jackass while wearing this stuff.

Please don't hesitate to give advice, comment on, or slam me.

Peace.

 

[spatts]

I've never known there to be special suit for speed. I thought a suit was for squatting....fast or slow.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

oh crap

Well, basically from my search I deduced that ordering a competition fit would take 2 people to get me into and would be really hard to set back on the box without using a lot of wieght, and that a loose suit that is just tight enough to support the hips should be used. Also, on the elitefts.com website I searched and they say they used old, stretched out suits for DE day b/c they just need enough support for hip protection.

I plan on squatting using compensentory accelleration (as per westside's recommendations) on my DE days and in competition, but I thought you need a competition and a training suit(just to protect the hips), and that the training should be looser than the competition one? Fuck. I really wish PL'ing was more popular so I could go to a store and try these things on.

I guess I'll take a shower before trying on the suit (so I don't stank it up) and send it back if it doesn't fit, although I hate to do things like that.



Edited: Okay, are you messing with me? Here are some quotes taken from the elitefitnesssystems QandA board about suits:

"Training without a suit is less effective as it will wear on the hips. We wear loose suits to help with our hips."

and

"Dave,

I understand that you wear a loose squat suit on speed squat day. Do wear groove briefs under the suit as well? Right now I do not wear a suit at all but am starting to have some hip ache with better technique in the squat. Thanks.
Chuck P.

Chuck,
We wear one or the other, but not both. It doesn't really matter which you wear as we never pull the straps up. "

and

"Dave/Bob, On dynamic squat day you said to wear a loose suit with the straps down. If your not wearing one does it matter on the percents you use for your squat cycle? Thanks!

IF YOU ARE TAKING YOUR PERCENTAGES OFF A MEET MAX WITH EQUIPMENT AND HAVE DECIDED TO DO YOUR DYNAMIC/SPEED SQUAT WORKOUT WITH NO EQUIPMENT I WOULD THINK YOU'D HAVE TO LOWER THE PERCENTAGES TO MAINTAIN BAR SPEED.

TAKE MY ADVICE!WEAR A LOOSE SQUAT SUIT(STRAPS DOWN) OR A PAIR OF GROOVE BRIEFS ON DYNAMIC/SPEED SQUAT DAY.IT WILL SAVE YOUR GROIN AND HIPS IN THE LONG RUN."

 

[spatts]

I have a training suit too, and a competition suit. One is just a smaller version of the other. I wear the training suit for ME and DE work in the gym, and the other is for maxing out (which is rare) and for upcoming comps.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

I have a training suit too, and a competition suit. One is just a smaller version of the other. I wear the training suit for ME and DE work in the gym, and the other is for maxing out (which is rare) and for upcoming comps.

Yeah, that is what I meant in my first post. Sorry I can be quite incoherent and rambling...

I ordered the suit in one size bigger than "competition fit" for my DE squat days. I don't ever plan on wearing it for anything else. I just got it to protect my hips as per the advice of many WSB people. It was my understanding (from searching the boards and other sites) that the DE suit should be ordered one size larger so it doesn't take a shoehorn to get into. I don't know. If worse comes to worse, I may just have to break out chocolate milk/hamburger diet or eat enough "clean" foods to gain 30lbs and widen my narrow ass.

 

[GRIMMER]

Both sizes 36 or 38 will be fine for your speed day . Just wear the straps down. Youir hips are 2 inches smaller than mine and i'm 220 and the 36 champion i have is not really that tight. Both will work fine its just for helping keep your hips and grion form gettting to beat up.

 

[IrishPower]

IMO:

you should have gotten groove briefs.

at meet time, you add a suit on top of these. you don't change sizes of the briefs or suit for competition.

again, IMO, i think that those who rely on gear being ultra tight on the squat are doing themselves a disservice. it is uncomfortable, requires more than 1 person to get it, and is hard to nail perfectly.

also, the bigger a lifter gets, the less he can get away with tight gear.

/irish

 

[latinus_spicticus]

you should have gotten groove briefs.

IRISH, I really thought about doing that, but from what I've read they tend to be real ball smashers, and my nuts already interfere with my lifting as it is (I have hard time doing GHRs, straight legged situps, etc. b/c they get in the way). That is what caused me to shy away from the briefs and opt for the suit, instead. Maybe it is a myth about the briefs causing mucho testicular constriction, but there is a lot of conflicting info on the boards WRT equipment. But since they are cheap, I will go ahead and get some anyway. I still have a lot of things to invest in, though. If my suit doesn't fit then I will probably just go with the briefs. Your advice, as always is very helpful. Thank you.

Both sizes 36 or 38 will be fine for your speed day . Just wear the straps down. Youir hips are 2 inches smaller than mine and i'm 220 and the 36 champion i have is not really that tight. Both will work fine its just for helping keep your hips and grion form gettting to beat up.

Thanks for the reassurance. I am not as worried, now. Like I said, if I need to gain weight just to fit into the singlet, winter is coming up and I can hide some fat w/o scaring the women away. No biggie. Ditto on the help, you shall all recieve gifts shortly.

 

[spatts]

LMAO...my suits are 36 and 38 too.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

LMAO...my suits are 36 and 38 too

(kung fu voice on)Alas, one which is strong. You may possess muscular and powerful hips and thighs but you will never match the development of my rhomboids and impressive elbows out bench press style. j/k.

Seriously, though, does the 38 help with the DE box squatting?

What can I say about my legs? I basically neglected my legs for the past year, other than using my reverse hyper and performing the occasional sumo deadlift and/or lunge. However, I did a max effort squat workout tonight (arched back GMs, reverse hypers, straight legged situps, belt squats) and good lord did I eat a lot of food post-workout. I forgot how hungry one gets after an intense lower-body workout. I am sure once I start training both squat days per week and both bench days that I will creep up into the 220's without much effort. One day I will be a man...one day...