Joined 18th August, starting September 1 ("project Des")

[OMEGA]

"depression causes testosterone deficiency" he thinks that?

thats fucking INSANE ;its akin to saying a car does not run cause driving causes it run out of Gas, therefor don't drive lol.

the CAR need GAS! the Body needs TESTOSTERONE!! WTF!

 

[axemurderer]

I just read a bit about your HRT issues. I know it sucks. I got tested a couple of years ago and I was just a couple of points into "normal". So as far as the doc was concerned, I was normal, case closed. Fast forward a couple of years and I went in again (to a different doc). This time I was well below normal. I've been on HRT for about 7 months now and I love it. My endo has worked to find my optimal level and that is 100mg per week. I tried to get her to nudge it up to 150mg/week but it took my levels above "normal". Oh well. Better some than none.

Don't expect to blow up like a bodybuilder when/if you go on HRT. It has definitely helped me, but the change wasn't as drastic as I'd hoped. HRT just did what it was supposed to do for me, which was bring me up to normal. But I can say my energy and mood have increased A LOT!

Keep looking for a sympathetic endo/doc. It's worth it.

 

[OMEGA]

its drastic once you go past 250-300 a week range

but Axe you got a script, so thats a success. it is now ok for you to get black market Test to "supplement" the 100 you use now

 

[desmond]

its drastic once you go past 250-300 a week range

but Axe you got a script, so thats a success. it is now ok for you to get black market Test to "supplement" the 100 you use now

If I don't get anything from a doctor in the next 6 weeks I will go on the black market for HRT, or perhaps a full cycle.

I just want to see how I feel - not just muscle gain but principally energy levels/concentration - with normal test. The full cycle would be more for muscle gain obviously.

These normal test levels are a joke anyway - I mean dumping all adult males in the same range. I would like to be better than an 80 year old lol.

 

[axemurderer]

If I don't get anything from a doctor in the next 6 weeks I will go on the black market for HRT, or perhaps a full cycle.

I just want to see how I feel - not just muscle gain but principally energy levels/concentration - with normal test. The full cycle would be more for muscle gain obviously.

These normal test levels are a joke anyway - I mean dumping all adult males in the same range. I would like to be better than an 80 year old lol.

That's what pissed me off too!! Normal for an old man should not be normal me me. But the medical community has drawn a line in the sand. I would not advise this since it would be unethical, but... if you went on a prohormone such as P-plex for a couple of weeks, went cold turkey and then got re-tested 2-3 weeks after that, you would probably drop the last couple of points.

 

[desmond]

That's what pissed me off too!! Normal for an old man should not be normal me me. But the medical community has drawn a line in the sand. I would not advise this since it would be unethical, but... if you went on a prohormone such as P-plex for a couple of weeks, went cold turkey and then got re-tested 2-3 weeks after that, you would probably drop the last couple of points.

We don't have legal pro-hormones in Australia

At this stage I have no real aas connections. My brother use to be friends with one of the head producers in Adelaide, but they are no longer on speaking terms.

I have one other friend who is a reasonable connection but is heading to the US for holiday on a couple of days.

 

[OMEGA]

come on vacation to the USA ship your self some AAS to a US adress then ship it to AUS

let me know if you come to the states

 

[deezy1225]

wow that's awefull!

 

[OMEGA]

it sure is.

its CRAZY

 

[iggy]

i like it how doctors will dish out benzos/ect but are so against giving someone hrt when they need it.