Joined 18th August, starting September 1 ("project Des")

[desmond]

its ok, it would have been extra sweet if a nudge of deca was added


but Test Only will be excellent so long ad the dose is high enough per week

Is there much research of deca being used for people with hypogonadism as opposed to AIDS patients?

I'd love to show it to my Endo.

I couldn't find anything on it being used as part of HRT by doctors in AUS but will do further research

 

[desmond]

Well, my second test was still clinically low (below confidence intervals), but not as low.

So doctor wanted a retest and MRI.

Fucked off.

He's thinking of ascribing the test levels - despite being outside the usual range - to depression and won't prescribe as a consequence.

I will find out on 17 April.

Basically, this could be the end of me and weights if I'm forced to have permanently clinically low tests

 

[iggy]

damn it.
stupid doc better give you hrt.

 

[desmond]

damn it.
stupid doc better give you hrt.

Personally I'm not counting on it.

 

[iggy]

that's f#$%ed up bro.

get on facebook later and we'll chat about it.

 

[OMEGA]

keep looking till you find a liberl clinic

DO NOT STOP till you find one that will give you at least 200 mgs of Test E a week

 

[iggy]

yes, listen to omega. do not give up.

 

[OMEGA]

he cant give up

its just a matter of time till he you find one

 

[desmond]

Yes, I am not giving up.

My GP has said me may prescribe even if the endo doesn't, and I guess if he doesn't, I can see a less consevative endo.

I have even posted on bodybuilding.com lol if anyone knows in Australia a less conservative endo

 

[desmond]

Omega: the endo is completely dismissive of the idea that finasteride may have caused my hypergonadism. The annoying thing there are people on the net complaining about the exact same symptoms I have.

I think he just looks at me and thinks "no bitch tits...reasonable muscles...testosterone is not too low". It is really frustrating.

His reasoning "depression causes tesosterone deficiency" is curious - I have also read the reverse.

The thing is I know I am far physically inferior to when I was younger. I can feel my extreme dizziness when I played tennis, the general constant fatigue/weakness. When I was 17 I did weights for 3 months and could do 40 (close grip underhand chins). If only I could do that now - after hardcore training, as opposed to haphazard training.

It really shits me off. Have had enough.

Sorry to rant.