if you miss a meal on cycle or during PCT

[sebaco2011]

Insanity might want to give them a link to some of your info and your methodology and perhaps even credit Martin as im sure you didn't just discover this through university LOL... I can pretty much guarentee you , had you not read the site you might not be thinking the same way and might be one of the people following the broscience way , I know I sure as hell did.

Leangains.com

Steve if your working 8 hour construction its probably not ideal that you do this as Martin reccomends that this probably isnt the best eating habbit for people with a demanding job / situation.

But for the folks that have office jobs or are rather sedentary its perfect. Your muscles are getting fed from the nitrogen retention youv had the previous last night meal , eating every 2-3 will supply the nitrogen retention a little bit at a time , but eating your meals in larger quantity will just give you a higher nitrogen retention for your muscles. Just read the site its all there.

 

[stevesmi]

Tell me Steve, how long do you think a big meal consisting of 200g's of protein and 70g's of fat is being digested? How long do you think it will keep your amino acid levels in the blood elevated?

Just give me your best guess so I see if you know what I'm talking about here.

And about the construction work - No, I did not say that. Construction workers can be classified as heavy workers meaning they do lots of physical activity. Of course fasting allows you for some - but NOT 8 hours per day, that is true! Never said that. I was talking more about mental performance (and jobs that require mainly that).

Still, after rereading what I wrote I see it may have sounded very offensive and I'm sorry to you Stevesmi aswell as all other guys. Each person has a right to their own opionion. I shouldn't have reacted this way.

i'm not offended at all, debate is crucial and hopefully Nelson who came up with gear will chime in with his opinion.. i'm just saying that most guys on here work so fasting is just not realistic. i'm also not being a devils advocate either, i'm not saying to stuff your face all day. I eat small meals throughout the day. i'm not an advocate of dirty bulking at all even for skinny dudes. and for guys who miss meals and need that extra bump that is where gear can really be great for them which is the supplement we are talking about.

if i was rich i would just bodybuild 24/7 believe me that would be awesome, i fuckin love working out at the gym and seeing my improvement. i always switch up my diets.. 1 more week and I will be changing things up again.

 

[insanityapproved]

Insanity might want to give them a link to some of your info and your methodology and perhaps even credit Martin as im sure you didn't just discover this through university LOL... I can pretty much guarentee you , had you not read the site you might not be thinking the same way and might be one of the people following the broscience way , I know I sure as hell did.

Leangains.com

Steve if your working 8 hour construction its probably not ideal that you do this as Martin reccomends that this probably isnt the best eating habbit for people with a demanding job / situation.

But for the folks that have office jobs or are rather sedentary its perfect. Your muscles are getting fed from the nitrogen retention youv had the previous last night meal , eating every 2-3 will supply the nitrogen retention a little bit at a time , but eating your meals in larger quantity will just give you a higher nitrogen retention for your muscles. Just read the site its all there.

I'm sorry but I will not give this clown any credit because he did not "invent" anything as he claims. The guy is a living joke. But he sure knows how to manipulate people and is arrogant as hell which makes him look so convincing. He does have good writing abilities tho, I won't argue with that. Some of his articles are great so yes, I always point everyone interested in IF to leangains website.

But again, I did IF way before I knew who did guy was and before his site was online. And many others have aswell.

 

[sebaco2011]

Okay yeah I thought you did totally had me convinced you were doing all this stuff without reading his website and using his ideas, true he didn't really invent that as I dont really think you can invent not eating for a certain time period but the whole 16/8 thing come on now lol,as well as the protein taking a while to break down I can guarentee you found that on his site also give credit where its due even if he didn't invent it like I was saying since its kind of hard to invent that , but he did show people other ways and backed it up, lets get real I guarentee you had you not read that site or eat stop eat you would not be spewing out these ideas or trying them , guess Martin totally took your idea of 16/8 doh!

 

[insanityapproved]

Okay yeah I thought you did totally had me convinced you were doing all this stuff without reading his website and using his ideas, true he didn't really invent that as I dont really think you can invent not eating for a certain time period but the whole 16/8 thing come on now lol,as well as the protein taking a while to break down I can guarentee you found that on his site also give credit where its due even if he didn't invent it like I was saying since its kind of hard to invent that , but he did show people other ways and backed it up, lets get real I guarentee you had you not read that site or eat stop eat you would not be spewing out these ideas or trying them , guess Martin totally took your idea of 16/8 doh!

I'm not a strong advocate of 18/6. In fact I much prefer ADF. Many of my clients do aswell. Some also do what people call "the warrior diet" etc.

What I'm trying to tell people here is that there are many ways to reach same goals. Each person has to find his own way that suits them! I will never try to convince my client who wants to eat 5 meals a day to do IF if they don't want to do it. It's up to each individual to decide what they like.

IF is no magic and either eating every 2 hours is not. Both can produce same results. That's all I wanted to say But let people choose themselves the way that makes them feel good and comfortable!

I believe most people nowadays choose to do IF because of convenience. No more tupperware to work, no more thinking where and what you will be eating during the day, no more waking up earlier to eat breakfast etc. Most people report a sense of "freedom". And you get to eat a huge meal in the evening which most people find pleasing, especially when dieting, so they can for example have family dinner without having to obsessively count their portions etc. like they would have to with 6 tiny meals per day.

 

[training700]

I couldn't do it.. I can't think or focus if not eating. I hate it so tough going to classes after morning runs hungry when gotta make weight also I personally notice a drop in performance when fast vs being hungry but at least having some food in my system.
Can see if not really working and depending on your type where you seem to function well without food.

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[insanityapproved]

if i was rich i would just bodybuild 24/7 believe me that would be awesome, i fuckin love working out at the gym and seeing my improvement. i always switch up my diets.. 1 more week and I will be changing things up again.

Damn but that would have been a boring life, wouldn't it?

And if this was pointed at me ... I'm far from rich and I work 10+ hours per day, 7 days a week. That's also on of the main reasons why I do IF. If I had all day to eat small meals I might try that again aswell Now I can just focus on my work and then relax and eat when I'm done.

 

[Ifonly]

So just to clarify things.
IF diet for office type work??
6 meals/day construction/manual work??
Still bit unsure.

 

[moya]

I go without food for 16 hours every day and I'm perfectly fine as you can see.

agreed, i just started trying out your methods a few weeks ago...
im already leaner and i havent weighed myself recently, but im sure im up in bodyweight...
it calories in vs. calories out... as long as you get in your daily macro's it dont matter if you miss a meal, you can make it up later...

 

[brownbrown]

Lots of good info in this thread.... LOTS!!!