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If you have gained muscle and lost fat at the same time, post how you did it.
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Well, if you eat at above maintinence, crap foods like bad fats and bad carbs. You will more than likely gain little or no muscle, maybe even lose some, and you will definatly gain fat.
If so, then the opposite should be true. That if you eat extremely healthy, and time your meals perfectly so that your body has access calories at cirtian times to create muscle, and has deficiencies at cirtian times, when you will burn fat. Thus acheiving both at the same time.
Anyways, no one has posted any diets that have worked for them.
Do you guys reccomend that i go on a slieght surplus and increase the carbs. What is a good ratio to follow, to gain some muscle more than to lose fat.
If so, then the opposite should be true. That if you eat extremely healthy, and time your meals perfectly so that your body has access calories at cirtian times to create muscle, and has deficiencies at cirtian times, when you will burn fat. Thus acheiving both at the same time.
Anyways, no one has posted any diets that have worked for them.
Do you guys reccomend that i go on a slieght surplus and increase the carbs. What is a good ratio to follow, to gain some muscle more than to lose fat.
Munkieballs
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I have been doing it for about 2 years now, rather easily. Here is a broad picture of what I do:
Mon., Tue., Wed. - eat restricted carbs througout the day, basically only allowing for veggie and fiber carbs or tag along carbs that come with the meat flavoring. Meals are almost always under 20g carbs, usually around 10-15g carbs (subtracting fiber). Eat huge post-workout meal of whatever I want (within BBing reason), usually around 100g carbs or so and around 80g protein.
Thur. - eat moderate calories, moderate carbs. I very loosely shoot for the 40/30/30.
Fri., Sat. - same as M/T/W.
Sunday - eat like a hog. Donuts, fast-food, ice cream, whatever the hell I want. I go for high calorie, and avoid protein, if possible.
This is the basic template I follow. It has allowed me to consistently (albeit slowly) lose fat while gaining muscle for a long time now. I tweak the little nuances of my diet based on present goals, i.e. up the total calories if I want to concentrate more on gaining muscle or opposite if I want to lose more fat.
It's not the fastest way to gain muscle, or the fastest way to lose fat, but I'm not a competitive body builder. I also couldn't stand gaining fat on a bulking cycle, then having a bitch of a time losing the fat on a cutting cycle, but never quite getting to the point I wanted to get to because I either couldn't lose enough fat in the time-alotted, or I couldn't stand the muscle loss. For the regular Joe that wants to look spectacular, this is the best I could come up with for someone that wants to look and feel good all year round. I have felt in the best shape of my life at almost any given time in the last 2 years. The "plan" also fits well into every day life. The fact that I haven't really hit a plateau floors me. Obviously, it works better on AS, but I still can make crazy gains without. As a matter of fact, right now I've delayed my next cycle 3 weeks, because I went into "cycle-mode" of being high-intensity, but without the AS and have been very surprised at my gains. The only time this plan doesn't work for me is when I get lazy and don't stick to the diet or workouts.
My cholesterol level droped from 179 to 123 (in 2 years) doing this. I wasn't even trying to drop it.
If you want me to go into detail on my reasoning for some of the stuff, let me know. I can also go into detail on some more of the "tricks" I use, although I bet you know most of them - it's just a matter of doing them.
I plan on eating like this for the rest of my life, by the way.
Mon., Tue., Wed. - eat restricted carbs througout the day, basically only allowing for veggie and fiber carbs or tag along carbs that come with the meat flavoring. Meals are almost always under 20g carbs, usually around 10-15g carbs (subtracting fiber). Eat huge post-workout meal of whatever I want (within BBing reason), usually around 100g carbs or so and around 80g protein.
Thur. - eat moderate calories, moderate carbs. I very loosely shoot for the 40/30/30.
Fri., Sat. - same as M/T/W.
Sunday - eat like a hog. Donuts, fast-food, ice cream, whatever the hell I want. I go for high calorie, and avoid protein, if possible.
This is the basic template I follow. It has allowed me to consistently (albeit slowly) lose fat while gaining muscle for a long time now. I tweak the little nuances of my diet based on present goals, i.e. up the total calories if I want to concentrate more on gaining muscle or opposite if I want to lose more fat.
It's not the fastest way to gain muscle, or the fastest way to lose fat, but I'm not a competitive body builder. I also couldn't stand gaining fat on a bulking cycle, then having a bitch of a time losing the fat on a cutting cycle, but never quite getting to the point I wanted to get to because I either couldn't lose enough fat in the time-alotted, or I couldn't stand the muscle loss. For the regular Joe that wants to look spectacular, this is the best I could come up with for someone that wants to look and feel good all year round. I have felt in the best shape of my life at almost any given time in the last 2 years. The "plan" also fits well into every day life. The fact that I haven't really hit a plateau floors me. Obviously, it works better on AS, but I still can make crazy gains without. As a matter of fact, right now I've delayed my next cycle 3 weeks, because I went into "cycle-mode" of being high-intensity, but without the AS and have been very surprised at my gains. The only time this plan doesn't work for me is when I get lazy and don't stick to the diet or workouts.
My cholesterol level droped from 179 to 123 (in 2 years) doing this. I wasn't even trying to drop it.
If you want me to go into detail on my reasoning for some of the stuff, let me know. I can also go into detail on some more of the "tricks" I use, although I bet you know most of them - it's just a matter of doing them.
I plan on eating like this for the rest of my life, by the way.
Moderate_THIS
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alltraps said:
Is it not possible for this calorie surplus to come from fat stores? Anyway, one need not be in a calorie surplus 24-hours a day to build muscle or no one would. With properly timed nutrition and proper training protocol it is most certainly possible
bicepts101
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needsize said:
cause some of us dont compete and never will so there for we are not worried about gaining 30 lbs each cycle. keeping my stomach showing all year round is what want. i'de rather gain slow so my body can adapt easier to the weight change.
bicepts101
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alltraps said:
what is being done half assed? explain so can understand
I deffinatly am never going to bulk agian. It is seriously not for me. And Needsize, no offense, but how can you stand being bloated and have so much fat on you, when you know that you could look fucking awesome all year round. I know its because u compete, but i would think looking 10 points better would keep e from bulking ever.
Right now, i am happy with my size and once i get lean, i will stay lean, and hopefully slowley add muscle and/or lose fat over the years. Looking good year round is more important to me than getting big quick.
Right now, i am happy with my size and once i get lean, i will stay lean, and hopefully slowley add muscle and/or lose fat over the years. Looking good year round is more important to me than getting big quick.
It can easily be done with the right drugs, the right macronutrient balance, and a clean diet. Not a calorie deficet diet, but a clean one. Will the net gain be the same a few months after?? Its hard to say. I personally would rather stay leaner the whole way through. Also, many people dont like to blow up and then cut down. Many do though, so decide what you want. Trying to gain muscle while losing fat defintely takes more dedication. Remember that the more muscular you become, the easier and faster your body becomes at burning fat.
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